Also considering AAISP

I'm looking to drop Plusnet as soon as I can - Everyone has limits and I'm rapidly coming to mine.

I'm by no means a large user - under 8Gb peak (for me that's currently 16:00 - 00:00) and a total under 50Gb and that's both up and downloading. I think that I should be able to get that under 5Gb as I'm at work 08:30 - 17:00 and only use my main machine during the day via RDP for an external IP connection whilst at work - testing email, websites etc.

I currently have 2 domains with my ISP. 1 is in use for email, websites and DNS on my machines, the other is for a basic website and associated email. I currently use my ISP's email, but as you've heard recently that's none too reliable, so will be running my mail server shortly. I'm also looking to run my own DNS too.

I've also currently got a 8 IP block, but I'd like a 16 block. How easy is it to get a 16 block?

What's the migration cost? New Max lines show as 49:99, is it the same for migrating in?
EDIT: Found It.

Does A&A have a place for me??

Edited by deleted (Wed 19-Jul-06 23:19:23)

I exited Plusnet immediately they started LLUing customers without notification.

Provided you can keep your peak (08:00-18:00) download down ( also don't forget AAISP does not measure upload against your allowance). So far I've found it easier than expected.

"How easy is it to get a 16 block?" Just request it when you signup.

"Does A&A have a place for me??" Sounds like it.

What's the charge / penalty for going over on peak? I see a mention of "top-up" but not on cost. Do they just bill that to your card, or add it to your following bill.

If you don't "top up" do you just get no connectivity during peak hours?

As for the 16 IP's, do A&A make you jump through hoops for them?
Zen used to hand out up to 16 if you asked, Plusnet gave me 8 but I had to justify it and fill out RIPE justification forms and such like.

Edited by deleted (Wed 19-Jul-06 23:22:31)

to echo normanb

im on a 3GB daytime cap
i find it easy .. .tbh im not in the country most of the time lol

but the cap-less evening tx is brill

ive got 64 ips just for the asking and very useful it is too
the 1-4-64 ip set up i have is most logical and straight forward

their tech support is even better than zen ...and thats saying something!!!!

tbh if you can keep within the 8am - 6pm caps .. A&A is a no brainer

like all isp's they can have their occasional boggle ... disconnects etc
but tbh ive never seen an isp to have such a grip on BT's balls and squeeze them so tightly that they get things done in a fraction of the time that other isp's manage ... its brill!!!!!!

Well 16 IP's would suit me for my current plans, but leaves nothing spare in it - I've max my current 8, and have to swap suff around at the moment.

As for having a grip on BT, I think Plusnet are doing a great job there already. :-/
11 weeks to find out why I've not had a single delta report, and 9 days so far of investigation when I asked for my SNR Margin to be upped to 9db in the DLM!!

What am I going to lose from PN??
240mins a month of SIP-> PSTN calls. Well kinda, as it's not working more often than it is. The free DNS hosting of my 2 domains - geez, I'll pay a few extra quid until I get my name servers live.
The 200Mb of webspace - well I use about 3-4Mb at most, and I can't even rely on that working day to day.
The random dropping of PPP sessions, the catch all email address (mines blackholed now anyways), the constantly changing T&C's, the risk of being LLU'd without my knowledge, the massive packetloss I keeep reporting on 2 specific gateways along with the poor throughputs. The ability to talk to a CSC agent that doesn't tell me "It looks OK to me" or "reboot your router and wait 20 mins and call back if it's still a problem" despite that fact that you ARE calling back as you HAVE rebooted and IT IS still a problem!!

Rant over I think.

Just trying to sort out the best time to give 30 days notice - luckily I'm not too far from the start of my billing cycle - and to request my MAC.

Lastly, I'm not familar with 1-4-64. I've never come across this before. Can you explain?
I
've just got a straight 8 IP block at present, network - router - 5 usable - broadcast.
I was hoping to get similar but with a 16 or 32 block.
My current plan is like this with my 5 publics being translated 1-1 on the ISA box. However, I've recently had a PIX515E come my way (handy as I want to ditch my MS certifications for Cisco) that can run in transparent mode so if I could give all my boxes publics IP's but filtered by the PIX for safety I'd be laughing!

Edited by deleted (Thu 20-Jul-06 01:10:44)

You can carry over 10GB of over-usage and slowly get rid of it if you do manage to go over one month.

IP's just need to be asked for, an /28 (16 IP's) isn't a problem. You don't need to fill out RIPE forms etc.

The peak hours are only 8am to 6pm Monday - Friday, all upload and anything outside those hours isn't counted.

The tech support is fantastic, too.

1-4-64 or in your case would be 1-4-16 ips

static routing

youre given a zyxel router by A&A already preconfigured
plug in and go ... its as easy as that
you hang your own (ethernet/broadband) router off that also with static routes
the way things were supposed to be done

1 wan ip on zyxel
4 ips on the lan ... network broadcast and _router_ with a spare from the 4 for an ip on the zyxel lan side
ie for YOUR router

your router's wan ip.... the last from the group of 4 on the _lan_ on the zyxel the spare one from above
with the 16 ips on the lan side of your router ... again network broadcast _router_ and 13 spare for use on your lan

as i say static routes
no nat
no pptp
no ppoa to mess with (thats done in the zyxel)
no sip spoof
no dhcp spoof

just plain old working properly routing
it sounds more complicated than it actually is!

In reply to:

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I've just got a straight 8 IP block at present, network - router - 5 usable - broadcast.
I was hoping to get similar but with a 16 or 32 block.
My current plan is like this with my 5 publics being translated 1-1 on the ISA box. However, I've recently had a PIX515E come my way (handy as I want to ditch my MS certifications for Cisco) that can run in transparent mode so if I could give all my boxes publics IP's but filtered by the PIX for safety I'd be laughing!

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Basically, A&A can route you an /30 (a block of 4 IP's), as well as your /28 or /27 for your network.

Your ADSL router (with NAT turned off) has one IP from the /30 on it's LAN port, and the PIX has the other on it's WAN port. Then, you use your larger IP block on the LAN side of the PIX.

This is similar to my setup (I have an /29 because I have two lines bonded though) with a FireBrick.

You get full control over reverse DNS for all of your IP's too.

Edited by PCFreak (Thu 20-Jul-06 08:50:01)

Right!! I understand now.

I've never come across this type of connectivity before. I've only seen a single router, with the same IP on WAN and LAN side and the rest of the IP's LAN side.

This is why I have my current plan for the firewall using 1 public on it's to be doing 1-1 LAT for the remaining 4 usable addresses and everything else NAT'd.

Then when the PIX came along, you can do layer 2 filtering so I was just going to give everything a public IP, the routers address as the gateway and let the PIX do the routing / filtering it needed - Now I'm not so sure!

MAC obtained - order submitted - SMS confirmation of order (I'm liking it already, but I am easily pleased!!)