ADSL 2+

Can anyone show me a Broadband Quality Monitor for a ADSL 2+ connection? At this moment I have virgin broadband with the SHUB 3 which is not good for gaming. My only other option is ADSL, I live about 3km for my exchange but have no idea what this would be like for gaming? I would only have my PC connected for gaming which I believe does not use much bandwidth but wish to improve my latency. What is gaming like on ADSL? What latency would I expect?

See this page on the thinkbroadband Main Site, and/or click either "BQM" in my sig for a real life example running 24/7.

To create one you need to register and log in on the Main Site, but you can use the same nick and password as long as no-one already has the nick there.

Edit: It should work for your VM connection here and now.

Edited by RobertoS (Fri 26-May-17 11:54:11)

Troter is asking what the response times are like on ADSL2+ rather than wanting to use BQM on existing connection.

ADSL2+ latency very much depends on distance and what level of interleaving gets applied to the line. In my experience it was always pretty stable - not as low as FTTC but it was always fine for gaming - but that was on a reasonably stable line. In the end it is line dependent so how other lines perform won't potentially tell you much about your own.

Note my mention of his connection was an edit, made to tell him that if he isn't familiar with it he can try it.

As for the difference between ADSLx and FTTC, my FTTC latency has mainly been almost exactly the same as it was on ADSL2+, but is now about 6ms higher and has been for months.

Please don't try to teach me how to suck eggs. If you wish to give the OP more information than I have given, please don't tell me things you must know I already know. Tell the poster.

In reply to a post by ian72:

Troter is asking what the response times are like on ADSL2+ rather than wanting to use BQM on existing connection.

The OP's opening question was "Can anyone show me a Broadband Quality Monitor for a ADSL 2+ connection?" I answered it. I added an edit, as you can see, that simply pointed out that if Troter was not aware of the thinkbroadband BQM then it would also run on their VM connection, so they could see how they liked it. However it is quite likely that they are already running it on that. Mine is of course running on FTTC but that makes no difference to the principle.

ADSL2+ latency very much depends on distance and what level of interleaving gets applied to the line. In my experience it was always pretty stable - not as low as FTTC but it was always fine for gaming - but that was on a reasonably stable line. In the end it is line dependent so how other lines perform won't potentially tell you much about your own.

Why are you telling me this. You should be telling the OP. Their post has a "Reply" button. I did not even try to answer the gaming question as I don't do internet gaming. It is of no interest to me. However I have pointed out, in my previous post, that my experience of latency is the opposite of yours.

I think you may have misunderstood, I take it they are wanting to see how an ADSL2+ connection is looking in terms of latency/jitter as considering jumping ship from Virgin Media

Will try and find some ADSL2+ ones and also see if can find one at a rough 3km distance later once I am not tied to my phone

I didn't misunderstand the OP Andrew, as you can see from my first reply. I merely answered the first question asking for a BQM for ADSL2+.

Then as well as the page for that I suggested a look at mine to see one in action rather than static on a descriptive page. I didn't feel it necessary to point out at the time that my connection happens to be FTTC. In the same way as the page I linked to and the detail page that links to don't mention the type of connection at all.

I didn't address the second question re gaming latency as I don't do gaming and didn't want to get into a long explanation of the theory of latency. I thought it best to leave that entirely to a gamer .

In reply to a post by Troter3:

Can anyone show me a Broadband Quality Monitor for a ADSL 2+ connection? At this moment I have virgin broadband with the SHUB 3 which is not good for gaming. My only other option is ADSL, I live about 3km for my exchange but have no idea what this would be like for gaming? I would only have my PC connected for gaming which I believe does not use much bandwidth but wish to improve my latency. What is gaming like on ADSL? What latency would I expect?

The SHUB3 is probably causing most of the problems.

ADSL and VDSL / FTTC are often quite similar in latency. With 20 pings (ICMP ECHO) to bbc.co.uk from my WIn10 PC I get responses in 11ms.

My BQM is here:
https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

Its the green and blue traces that are most of interest, the yellow spikes just show the connection being used. Red shows packet loss or the connection dropping.

Thanks for all your replies people. Are you saying the yellow spikes on the graph are nothing to worry about? They were never there when I had my SHUB 2, think its the puma 6 problem?

https://www.thinkbroadband.com/broadband/monitoring/...

The ones on mine can be ignored. On yours it depends if you're using the connection at that time.