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flilot
(regular) Tue 28-Jul-20 18:18:57

Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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While I'm waiting for Vodafone/CityFibre to get their backsides in gear and sort out the issue with my newly provisioned connection (extremely poor throughput, router(s) constantly dropping PPPoE connections), I thought I'd share my BQM graph for comment.

The same graph happens using two different routers, one of which is a known quantity using BQM on another connection and never has any issues with BQM at all (so not ping on WAN settings related, etc).

What's more puzzling to me is the almost constant and consistent block of exactly 50% packet loss across the board. The spikes to 100% packet loss make some sense as I'm guessing thats when the PPPoE session is lost altogether. But the consistent 50% has me puzzled. Thoughts?

Graph: Vodafone Gigafast BQM

Carl
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RobertoS
(elder) Wed 29-Jul-20 00:54:57

Re: Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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That's really weird! Very unusual.

I'm afraid I can't think of any possible reason at the moment, but on a light note perhaps printing them out a few times could save money on Christmas decorations?

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flilot
(regular) Wed 29-Jul-20 01:02:36

Re: Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
...perhaps printing them out a few times could save money on Christmas decorations?

Carl
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MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 29-Jul-20 09:08:13

Re: Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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If the dropped packet issue is also visible when doing in bound and out bound pings then suggests there is a serious fault

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flilot
(regular) Wed 29-Jul-20 17:51:37

Re: Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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Outbound from my Mac:

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PING newswww.bbc.net.uk (212.58.249.145): 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=11.905 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1Request timeout for icmp_seq 2
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=11.983 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=11.976 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 5Request timeout for icmp_seq 6
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=7 ttl=56 time=11.780 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=8 ttl=56 time=11.522 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 9Request timeout for icmp_seq 10
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=11 ttl=56 time=11.699 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=12 ttl=56 time=11.822 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 13Request timeout for icmp_seq 14
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=15 ttl=56 time=11.550 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=16 ttl=56 time=11.954 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 17Request timeout for icmp_seq 18
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=19 ttl=56 time=13.830 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=20 ttl=56 time=11.679 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 21Request timeout for icmp_seq 22
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=23 ttl=56 time=12.009 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=24 ttl=56 time=11.454 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 25Request timeout for icmp_seq 26
64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=27 ttl=56 time=12.062 ms64 bytes from 212.58.249.145: icmp_seq=28 ttl=56 time=11.574 ms
Request timeout for icmp_seq 29Request timeout for icmp_seq 30
 34 packets transmitted, 17 packets received, 50.0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 11.454/11.893/13.830/0.517 ms

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PING 104.20.3.73: 56 data bytes
 64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=0 ttl=56 time=10.588 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=10.828 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 2
Request timeout for icmp_seq 364 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=10.411 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=5 ttl=56 time=11.115 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 6
Request timeout for icmp_seq 764 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=8 ttl=56 time=11.265 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=9 ttl=56 time=10.910 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 10
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1164 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=12 ttl=56 time=11.380 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=13 ttl=56 time=11.142 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 14
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1564 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=16 ttl=56 time=11.302 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=17 ttl=56 time=10.451 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 18
Request timeout for icmp_seq 1964 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=20 ttl=56 time=10.749 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=21 ttl=56 time=10.974 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 22
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2364 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=24 ttl=56 time=11.052 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=25 ttl=56 time=10.592 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 26
Request timeout for icmp_seq 2764 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=28 ttl=56 time=11.144 ms
64 bytes from 104.20.3.73: icmp_seq=29 ttl=56 time=11.123 msRequest timeout for icmp_seq 30
 37 packets transmitted, 19 packets received, 48.6% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 10.411/10.961/11.578/0.315 ms

Outbound from the VF Router:
https://ibb.co/LZgVvwF
https://ibb.co/pwHXBgS

Not good!

Carl
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vodafone Gigafast 100/100 | THG3000 (currently faulty!)

flilot
(regular) Fri 31-Jul-20 18:13:51

Re: Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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I'm apparently connected to a faulty line card, so the issue should be resolved soon!

Carl
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vodafone Gigafast 100/100 | THG3000 (currently faulty!)

flilot
(regular) Tue 04-Aug-20 01:53:22

Re: Vodafone Gigafast BQM - What's the consensus?

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Line card replaced, connection now perfect.

BQM Graph Before / After Line Card Replacement

Carl
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vodafone Gigafast 100/100 | THG3000
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