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Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Thu 02-Feb-23 12:16:06
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Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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I am looking for help to interpret my BQM graph.

My Broadband Ping

In particular, is the packet loss normal for a full fibre connection. I never had anything like this on FTTC.



Zen Full Fibre - Fritzbox 7530

Mobile:- EE PAYG - TP-Link Archer MR200
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 02-Feb-23 15:17:17
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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One comment - if you find out why the minimum latency has a sawtooth, let me know. I have the same on mine.


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Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Thu 02-Feb-23 20:55:56
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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Can't help you there. Sorry.



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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 02-Feb-23 21:16:24
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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In reply to a post by Sandgrounder:
I am looking for help to interpret my BQM graph.

My Broadband Ping

In particular, is the packet loss normal for a full fibre connection. I never had anything like this on FTTC.

Mmmmm some Zen folks are having issues post migration onto Zen's own backhaul from BTW backhaul - checkout the Zen sub-forum for grim reading.

Then again it might just be your router de-prioristing ICMP (ping) for real work.

What's the connection like in real life?
Standard User jimbof
(member) Thu 02-Feb-23 22:57:16
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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Fritzbox will often drop pings from the WAN interface. There is a non-defeatable rate limit of 1 per second I believe. Particularly bad if you have more than one service pinging it, but it can even happen with just one service pinging it. Use a different router if you want reliable WAN ping, basically..
Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Feb-23 07:57:41
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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What's the connection like in real life?
Very Good



Zen Full Fibre - Fritzbox 7530

Mobile:- EE PAYG - TP-Link Archer MR200
Standard User Sandgrounder
(knowledge is power) Sat 04-Feb-23 08:04:41
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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In reply to a post by jimbof:
Fritzbox will often drop pings from the WAN interface. There is a non-defeatable rate limit of 1 per second I believe. Particularly bad if you have more than one service pinging it, but it can even happen with just one service pinging it.
That sounds like the problem. Thank You

In reply to a post by jimbof:
Use a different router if you want reliable WAN ping, basically..
What do you recommend? Will a Draytek 2860 work with Full Fibre?



Zen Full Fibre - Fritzbox 7530

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Edited by Sandgrounder (Sat 04-Feb-23 08:10:35)

Standard User blue166
(newbie) Fri 24-Feb-23 17:15:31
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I am with BT FTTP and my line also shows this wave pattern. What is going on?

On f8lure it looks different.

I never used to see this with my FTTC line.

Anyone know what's happening with this sawtooth effect?

I am also using the same router as with my FTTC line and ASUS AC86u.

Thanks,
Standard User jaydub
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 26-Feb-23 00:24:42
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Re: Packet Loss on Full Fibre


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I am with BT FTTP and my line also shows this wave pattern. What is going on?
On f8lure it looks different.
I never used to see this with my FTTC line.
Anyone know what's happening with this sawtooth effect?
I am also using the same router as with my FTTC line and ASUS AC86u.

Same here. I am with IDNet but the FTTP is provided via a Zen wholesale connection and seeing the following: My Broadband Ping

I am not seeing the same thing on f8lure, which shows a flat minimum ping line.

I also didn't see the same thing on my FTTC line, even though the router is the same: a Netgear Orbi RBR50 in my case.

And I am equally curious about why we are seeing this wave patter on an FTTP connection.
Standard User blue166
(newbie) Sun 26-Feb-23 11:26:59
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In reply to a post by jaydub:
In reply to a post by blue166:
I am with BT FTTP and my line also shows this wave pattern. What is going on?
On f8lure it looks different.
I never used to see this with my FTTC line.
Anyone know what's happening with this sawtooth effect?
I am also using the same router as with my FTTC line and ASUS AC86u.

Same here. I am with IDNet but the FTTP is provided via a Zen wholesale connection and seeing the following: My Broadband Ping

I am not seeing the same thing on f8lure, which shows a flat minimum ping line.

I also didn't see the same thing on my FTTC line, even though the router is the same: a Netgear Orbi RBR50 in my case.

And I am equally curious about why we are seeing this wave patter on an FTTP connection.


Have you got a link the F8lure one so I can compare?

This is odd what's going on with the graphs here on our connections. Would like to know why this is on certain connections of ours.

Obviously not happening on everyone's but seems to be on some like ours.

Edited by blue166 (Sun 26-Feb-23 11:28:00)

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