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(deleted) Tue 14-Apr-09 11:43:07
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Phorm - legal action started


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(deleted) Tue 14-Apr-09 14:49:14
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Good to see the Phorm issue is being taken seriously.
Standard User RobertoS
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Apr-09 17:10:59
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There's also a thread about it in General Broadband Chatter now.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Apr-09 19:27:37
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But why do the E.U have to do this, why can't can't our own government sort it out?

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Standard User RobertoS
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 14-Apr-09 19:37:01
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Because as I've said before, they want someone to get the technology working so they can then use it for [cough] "anti-terrorist" [/cough] snooping.

The EU legal action is against the British Government, not Phorm itself.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Apr-09 08:10:31
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Because as I've said before, they want someone to get the technology working so they can then use it for [cough] "anti-terrorist" [/cough] snooping.


You think the E.u don't want this? They already forced governments to bring in laws for ISPs to keep hold of email travel and telecom companies to keep hold of phone calls.
The EU legal action is against the British Government, not Phorm itself.


Correct, so I have no idea why people is getting excited because it will make no difference and Phorm will still be with us.

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Standard User RobertoS
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 15-Apr-09 08:23:50
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You think the E.u don't want this? They already forced governments to bring in laws for ISPs to keep hold of email travel and telecom companies to keep hold of phone calls
As you say.

The point about the government allowing the development/bug-clearingdeployment of Phorm is that it will enable inspection of the contents of emails without having to store them all.

Of course this is only possible because not only do terrorists not know what encryption is, they also aren't even capable of inventing simple coding methods such as were used in earlier centuries.

Are they!

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(staff) Wed 15-Apr-09 10:28:24
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Its not action against Phorm, but rather the UK laws that govern how the consent system would operate.

i.e. Phorm is OK under UK law, but EU is questioning the UK laws in relation to what the EU has said should happen. So when lawyers have said that Phorm is fine, they've probably referred to UK law as it stands, or the UK interpretation of EU law.

The EU press release does not indicate that Phorm will be outlawed as some seem to interpret, but rather that consent will need to be much more informed.

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Standard User zyborg47
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Apr-09 09:18:08
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Its not action against Phorm, but rather the UK laws that govern how the consent system would operate.

i.e. Phorm is OK under UK law, but EU is questioning the UK laws in relation to what the EU has said should happen. So when lawyers have said that Phorm is fine, they've probably referred to UK law as it stands, or the UK interpretation of EU law.

The EU press release does not indicate that Phorm will be outlawed as some seem to interpret, but rather that consent will need to be much more informed.
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Most people realises this, but even if Phorm is not outlawed, we may get opt-in instead of opt ouit and they may use a better system than flipping cookies.

We will just have to wait an see.
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