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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 26-Feb-11 23:28:17
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Re: Ping has just went uo for no reason?


[re: Spikester84] [link to this post]
 
Why have you repeated the same thing three times? Do you think we are blind?

Why haven't you set up a BQM?

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Standard User Spikester84
(regular) Sun 27-Feb-11 11:26:01
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Re: Ping has just went uo for no reason?


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I can see the ping has went up, setting up BQM will just show me what I already know surely?

Steve
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 27-Feb-11 12:00:56
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It records it 24/7 as long as your router is on. Doesn't need the computer on. So you can see if it is constant or highly variable.

All it does is tbb ping the router every second and record it. Doesn't use any resources on your computer, and also shows packet loss as well as latency.

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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 27-Feb-11 12:16:32
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Re: Ping has just went uo for no reason?


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In reply to a post by Spikester84:
Latency type Interleaved


Bt shouldn't be upgrading the exchange, as it is so small. I just dont know why my ping has went up, my interleaving has always been on, never had it off.


Why not? Sometimes they need to do software upgrades.

Same thing happened to mine line. Opted out of interleaving and after the upgrade I found it back on (as DLM thinks it is better for me).

Your stats confirm interleaving is back on:

Latency type Interleaved

So give the ISP a call and request they opt you back out again.

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Standard User Spikester84
(regular) Sun 27-Feb-11 12:48:48
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Re: Ping has just went uo for no reason?


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In reply to a post by uno:
In reply to a post by Spikester84:
Latency type Interleaved


Bt shouldn't be upgrading the exchange, as it is so small. I just dont know why my ping has went up, my interleaving has always been on, never had it off.


Why not? Sometimes they need to do software upgrades.

Same thing happened to mine line. Opted out of interleaving and after the upgrade I found it back on (as DLM thinks it is better for me).

Your stats confirm interleaving is back on:

Latency type Interleaved

So give the ISP a call and request they opt you back out again.

Matt


I never had interleaving off in the first place, not sure I want to have it off, as it can create instability on your line.

Internet seems a bit slower as well, even though I seem to be getting the same speed test results, when loading a youtube video it seems to stutter at first, which never happened before.

I don't think I will bother BT with this, as I have spoke to them about Ping in the past, and I got the same answer, which was "your ping will be different depending on which server you ping" and while I know this is correct, it still doesn't explain why my ping is so high to every serverm not just far away ones.

Steve
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 27-Feb-11 16:29:03
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Ring them up, and ask them to switch off interleaving, your line will take it, no problems.

Standard User smokeymacpot
(newbie) Sat 12-Mar-11 09:11:09
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my ping has risen in the last week or so for no apparent reason. usually 15ms to uk servers, its now pinging at 25ms :

Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=52
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=52
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=52
Reply from 212.58.244.69: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=52

first i noticed was playing online games that it did not feel as responsive/instant as before. something isnt right with bt's network and tracert shows +10ms extra at the very first hop.

spikester ask bt to put you on fastpath, you sync at full speed with a shorter line than me, so you will be okay with it!! fastpath will remove 16ms of latency and you will enjoy online games more!
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Mar-11 07:51:32
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Smokey, hae you got any old tracerts that you can compare with current ones? It is possible that a small change in the Internet route could have increased your ping time to some servers. You might also have changed to a different route at the ISP that might be taking a slightly different route out to the net.

The routes on the Internet are always in flux and a 10ms change in ping is not that significant in the scheme of things for the net.
Standard User smokeymacpot
(newbie) Mon 14-Mar-11 12:42:26
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bbc or uk game servers have always been 14-16ms on fastpath. never changed untill this month. latency to first(2) hop is +10ms more than it used to be.

tracert taken today:
Tracing route to jolt.co.uk [84.234.17.86]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
2 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 217.41.167.58
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 217.47.19.161
4 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 217.47.73.174
5 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms 217.47.73.91
6 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms 217.32.171.249
7 25 ms 24 ms 26 ms 62.172.103.125
8 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms core3te-0-1-0-0.telehouse.ukcore.bt.net [109.159
.254.50]
9 24 ms 24 ms 25 ms 195.66.225.116
10 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms hex-edge.netrino.co.uk [84.234.19.146]
11 27 ms 27 ms 27 ms bs1-core.netrino.co.uk [84.234.19.5]
12 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms bruce.ferrago.net [84.234.17.86]

Trace complete.
Standard User ian72
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-Mar-11 13:43:34
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Without an old tracert to compare to it is difficult to say anything for certain.

It does appear though that nearly all of the latency is in the first hop. Suggests maybe something has changed in BTs network that could have altered the path. Perhaps it is 21CN has changed something?

I am on Sky LLU and get 30ms to Jolt so your ping looks good (I would be surprised if many could beat the ping you used to get). Only other thing I can think of is if BT have moved you from fastpath to interleaved or increased the depth of interleaving for some reason.

One other thought - have you checked the number of errors clocking up on the router - could be that you are getting increased errors that are causing latency?

Edited by ian72 (Mon 14-Mar-11 13:46:51)

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