Quite right as well

however it has to be said that i have in the past used over 100 gig in a month legitimatley.

My steam file folders containing my legit PC games contains over a 100 gig of data last time i formated my main hard drive i had to redownload oll of steam again, so whilst i dont disagree that most of us heavey users are d/l stuff we probablky shouldnt be it can be done very easily legit.

In reply to a post by MrGrumpy:

no idea m8 however ALL ISPs who quote unlimited/unthrottled will have clauses and the one that springs to mind Bethere, even they have a clause in theirs! Personally would hate to have my service ruined by a select few downloading 24/7, but maybe I`m being selfish .

Mine is unlimited and unthrottled, When they say unlimited it is unlimited, not like other ISps who use the unlimited word and then you read though the small print and find out that it is not as unlimited as you think it is

In reply to a post by mikesmotors:

Heard BT are dropping their fair use policy, but have no idea if it's just a PR stunt as they seem to be saying "we're dropping it" but then "but we will still stop excessive users" and "it doesn't affect most of our services".

Anyone able to sum up what's going on in a couple of sentences?

BT FUP is not a problem, the problem I had with BT is their traffic management, some days I could not even use Iplayer and yet I was well below their FUP.

BT is awful, never go back to BT if I can help it.

In reply to a post by zyborg47:

In reply to a post by MrGrumpy:

no idea m8 however ALL ISPs who quote unlimited/unthrottled will have clauses and the one that springs to mind Bethere, even they have a clause in theirs! Personally would hate to have my service ruined by a select few downloading 24/7, but maybe I`m being selfish .

Mine is unlimited and unthrottled, When they say unlimited it is unlimited, not like other ISps who use the unlimited word and then you read though the small print and find out that it is not as unlimited as you think it is

Have you got that in writing? Does it say that in their T & C ?

In reference to adsl24.co.uk/aup/:

What about excessive network usage?
If it's felt that any customer's activities are so excessive that other members are detrimentally affected, ADSL24 Internet Ltd may give the customer generating the excessive web traffic a written warning (by email or otherwise). In extreme circumstances, should the levels of activity not immediately decrease after the warning, ADSL24 Internet Ltd may terminate that customer's services.

In other words, run it "unlimited" 24/7 and you'll probably be cut off.

BT are not dropping their FUP. They are dropping their 300gb per month usage limit. Usage is now going totally unlimited, though only 0.5% broke the 300gb limit. They are continuing to request fair use in evening peak hours, in that users refrain from sharing large files etc. I should imagine that is auto-renewing contracts also get outlawed, many will be returning to BT.

The powers that be are not interested in those that download because they can never prove the end user by IP alone, they only monitor the uploaders.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8483482.stm
Sites that I use a lot can burn up bandwidth without downloading, but unlimited broadband is a lot cheaper than Sky.
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/watch-online/
http://www.mypremium.tv/
http://www.livescorehunter.com/
http://www.tvcatchup.com/channels.html
http://wwitv.com/

Edited by m0aur (Sun 17-Apr-11 21:59:42)

In reply to a post by MrGrumpy:

Have you got that in writing? Does it say that in their T & C ?

Not as such because each of their services are different, so they got it on the info of each product.
You look at their site and you will see that they don't block ports or traffic manage any service. But they do have limits on some, mainly the ones that uses the BT network.

Their Cable and Wireless service is 100% unlimited and unthrottled. A mate of mine who uses the same network but with another supplier went above 600gb for three months ina row, nothing was said.

In reply to a post by orly:

In reference to adsl24.co.uk/aup/:

What about excessive network usage?
If it's felt that any customer's activities are so excessive that other members are detrimentally affected, ADSL24 Internet Ltd may give the customer generating the excessive web traffic a written warning (by email or otherwise). In extreme circumstances, should the levels of activity not immediately decrease after the warning, ADSL24 Internet Ltd may terminate that customer's services.

In other words, run it "unlimited" 24/7 and you'll probably be cut off.

That is in their Acceptable Usage Policy, i think it would take some doing to do that unless you was really doing something illegal.

what i like is that there is no traffic management so everything works as fast as it can.

And what about water meters? Some would not have them as it'd mean higher cost. Just like when you go to a all you can eat buffet a fat guy going in with an empty belly for £10 may eat 5 times more than a thin guy paying the same £10.

I much love these arguments!