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Standard User Meloco65
(learned) Wed 20-Jul-11 20:43:07
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
No they are the only two connected phone sockets.

If I remove the green wire what does that do? Disable the other phone sockets? Then test the line plugged in to that master socket and check internet/sync speeds?
Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Wed 20-Jul-11 20:48:35
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: Meloco65] [link to this post]
 
Also, tried with netgear router same line sync speeds and noise margin readings.

ok, at least its not the router (or its power supply)

the rest of the wiring does look like it could do with attention, however, it dosnt address why its only started failing now.

what sort of speed do your neighbors have?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:18:15
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: Meloco65] [link to this post]
 
If the green wire is connected to T3, for your purposes disconnecting it can do no harm and will very possibly improve things. It is the ring wire, as explained here.

Whatever good it does may however be swamped by probable other bad things. Sort those and it becomes essential, so may as well be done now. Read on first!

You will probably have seen burakkucat's post by now as well. My question about what other wires are visible was a tiny subset of what he asks, but I'm sure he will agree any wire on T3 should be disconnected. The important connections are T2 and T5.

Having said that, at this level of detail he is streets ahead of me, so I advise you supply the info he asks for. He is talking about what I said I didn't like the look of.

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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 20-Jul-11 21:19:38)


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Standard User Meloco65
(learned) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:21:17
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: burakkucat] [link to this post]
 
So...

Master Socket: (No idea where the cable is coming from here)

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...


Bedroom Old 1958 - 1989 socket:

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

[IMG]http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...[/IMG]


Bedroom Extension socket (cable coming directly from outside into wall):

http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae99/Meloco65/IMG...

For this one as clearly as I can write it and understand it:

Extension socket (newest addition):

Blue/w - 2

White / B - 5

Black thick wire has inside:

Green
Green/w
Blue/w
White/B
Orange/w
White/O
Brown


MASTER SOCKET:

Green - 3

Blue - 2

Orange - 5
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:33:14
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: Meloco65] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Meloco65:
No they are the only two connected phone sockets.
By that, do you mean they are the only two you use? Because earlier you said
They all have new/custom faceplates on them and the internet is plugged in to the main telephone socket in the house (the first one). When you take the faceplate off there is not anything like the picture you uploaded on any of them
which implies there are several.

They may all matter even if not used, because of the way the wiring works.

However, as ggremlin says, none of this explains why your troubles only just started. The wiring does though point to your connection having scope for a vast improvement.

Three questions. Did you change, move or add anything electrical/electronic just before this started, and what are all those connectors lying around in pic 1? I don't quite understand what is connected to what there anyway, so if you can tell us it might help.

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Standard User Meloco65
(learned) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:36:10
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I've searched all over and found three. Only the extension socket is in use at the moment (pic 1).

The cables lying around are all just ADSL filters as I tried 3 different ones in to where the broadband is connected. The big black box is just the wireless phones.

I've tidied up a bit now and all the filters are gone except the BT one (that came with the router).

No electrical equipment as far as I can tell/see.

edit: Just on a side note I took the green wire out of T3. Do I need to re-synch the router to test noise drop?

Edited by Meloco65 (Wed 20-Jul-11 21:45:50)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:48:22
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[re: Meloco65] [link to this post]
 
Yes, resync and get the stats.

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Standard User Meloco65
(learned) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:48:37
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


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After removing the green wire my stats are now:

VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up) 3.2 dB / 17.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 59.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 16.9 dBm / 11.9 dBm


.... So I'm not sure if there is a clue there? The internet is still horribly slow though.

speedtest:
Ping 81 (was 27 when I tested earlier today)
0.13 (was 0.10 earlier today)
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:49:43
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: Meloco65] [link to this post]
 
You haven't given us the connection speeds.

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Standard User Meloco65
(learned) Wed 20-Jul-11 21:52:24
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Re: Help please - Horrible issues on the line.


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Sorry that was before I restarted the BT Router. The Line was still at 1,680

But now,

After restart frown..

Connection information
Line state Connected
Connection time 0 days, 0:02:21
Downstream 448 Kbps
Upstream 448 Kbps


ADSL settings
VPI/VCI 0/38
Type PPPoA
Modulation ITU-T G.992.1
Latency type Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up) 15.1 dB / 17.0 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up) 58.0 dB / 31.5 dB
Output power (Down/Up) 14.5 dBm / 11.9 dBm
Loss of Framing (Local) 0
Loss of Signal (Local) 0
Loss of Power (Local) 0
FEC Errors (Down/Up) 0 / 0
CRC Errors (Down/Up) 0 / 2147480000
HEC Errors (Down/Up) nil / 0
Error Seconds (Local) 0

Edited by Meloco65 (Wed 20-Jul-11 21:52:56)

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