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Standard User GMAN98
(experienced) Sun 01-Jan-12 18:19:52
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: lg56xbp] [link to this post]
 
Looks up front to me though


You go here:- http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProduc...

Click legal stuff

it states "†Network management policy applies to unlimited options. See www.bt.com/broadbandusagepolicy for details. "

Which takes you here:-

http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProduc...

Its not really tucked away or hidden its easy enough to see in my opinion
Standard User lg56xbp
(newbie) Sun 01-Jan-12 18:24:24
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
]They are up front. The throttling of torrents is stated explicitly.



Where does it state how much you are actually able to download before shaping is applied?

Where does it state how much you will be throttled - and at which point of usage throttling will be applied?


Christ, it's worse than I thought:

downstream restrictions will typically be in place 4pm - midnight on weekdays and 9am - midnight on the weekend. Upstream restrictions may be in place at other times.



In other words, they only 'manage' traffic when 99.9% of folks will actually be using the service.

Edited by lg56xbp (Sun 01-Jan-12 18:27:46)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 01-Jan-12 18:31:43
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: lg56xbp] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by lg56xbp:
]They are up front. The throttling of torrents is stated explicitly.
Where does it state how much you are actually able to download before shaping is applied?
A red herring introduced by earlier posters stating that the 300GB FUP still applies.
Where does it state how much you will be throttled - and at which point of usage throttling will be applied?
Purely dependent on the current load on the (BT Retail) system as a whole, so any individual user can be affected in a different way on different days and at different times, depending on how many others are caning it at that time.

Wait for the Olympics! There'll be very few ISPs ride those out without big trouble. Particularly during office hours, which is counter-intuitive but obvious once you think about it.

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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sun 01-Jan-12 18:35:40
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: lg56xbp] [link to this post]
 
It says:

Is traffic management used during peak hours? Yes
When are typical peak hours? Weekdays: 4pm-12pm Weekends: 9am-12pm
What type of traffic is managed during these periods? Slowed down Peer-to-Peer (P2P)



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Standard User lelboy
(member) Sun 01-Jan-12 18:42:25
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: MHC] [link to this post]
 
I think my TIC modulator needs replacing!
Yes, even though BT are [censored] useless at general CS, I have to say that Infinity is fine. I'm wondering whether my area (east London) will be selected for the upgrade trials in the New year. I can live in hope! Cheers, Les.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 02-Jan-12 17:40:33
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: lg56xbp] [link to this post]
 
I suggest you visit aa.nu and look at their ethernet products and get an estimate for 100Mbps and sit back and prepare to be shocked, as to the cost of providing this

On the network Infinity is running over, every 1Mbps of traffic costs around £50 to £60 per month, i.e. the BT Wholesale WBC platform.

Be uses a different backhaul network, that has lower costs per Mbps

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 02-Jan-12 17:42:47
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: lg56xbp] [link to this post]
 
Most traffic management cannot be described precisely, because it will vary from day to day, depending on what all the other users are doing.

e.g. if you try and use torrents when millions others are then it will be slower, than if only a few 1000 are.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User blueacid
(committed) Mon 02-Jan-12 23:03:15
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: MrSaffron] [link to this post]
 
Would you therefore suspect that the current reports from users that BT Infinity is always fast are not long for this world?

I had been wondering whether BT Retail had arranged a high amount of backhaul for their marketing drive & they're slowly filling it up and aren't done yet.. this is of course complete speculation, I don't intend to scaremonger, more just simply enquire!

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Standard User RobFlet
(committed) Tue 03-Jan-12 15:47:35
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Re: BT Infinity


[re: blueacid] [link to this post]
 
I suspect that our initial stable and very fast BT Infinity connections may well slow down as more customers are brought on-line. However, my engineer told me that there were only 128 connections available in the FTTC cabinet to corss connect to the main green cab. So, for my area at least, there is already a physical limitation as to how many customers can actually be connected.

I wonder how many other new green cabs are in fact not able to fulfiul all the connections in the old box? I suspect most, and that BT will probably want a reasonably full order book before sending out people to install extra kit into the cabs....

Anyone else know what %age of old cab connections can actually be re-routed to the new cabs?

Rob

1999 Freeserve Dial up --> Freeserve Anytime ---> 2005 Wanadoo 512k BB ---> Jul 2009 Orange up 8 Megs(hah!) --> Nov 2009 O2 LLU -> Nov 2011 BT Infinity( getting 37.5 megs now on ethernet)

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 03-Jan-12 16:16:04
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The original standard size FTTC cabinet has space for 288 connections. Then there is the question of how many ports are installed in it, and, as you say, the number of pairs in the linking cable.

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