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Standard User db7
(member) Tue 07-Feb-12 15:30:17
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Why upgrade Home Hub ?


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http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/consumerProduc... has a link to upgrade to the latest BT Home Hub.

I already have a Home Hub, anyone know what benefit I would get out of spending the £49 for this upgrade?

*edit*: Just noticed they have removed BBTalk support (not that I use it at the moment); so I'm even more confused. The only value seems to be "smaller" / "lower power consumption".

thanks,

Edited by db7 (Tue 07-Feb-12 15:56:47)

Standard User stniuk
(experienced) Wed 08-Feb-12 15:02:37
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Yes I noticed that, the only benefits I can see is you won't have to carry as much money around.
Standard User Daniel_g
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 16:10:31
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Re: Why upgrade Home Hub ?


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Does the old one change channel on it's own to avoid the neighbours routers. It makes it better they say, makes sense, I have one as joined in may so don't know about the old ones apart from the telly adverts, old ones had the cordless phone on them, say you have used that so not worth changing I guess.

The new one can have a memory device, guess external Hard disk but I use a memory stick as it has a usb hole on the back and that shows up on network when doing start button and then all the choices of documents, computer, control panel, help support and all that, Network on there brings up the box with the usb memory device so an external memory any computer in the house could use as shard storage, I only have 1 computer and put emails and smal things on it that can't be lost likle holiday reciept emails. A feature I guess if you would use but why change what works!.

It can have power save and set a time the wireless shuts down, at night in bed. The internet connection stays and computers on the wired ports are good soshuts down wireless part, power saving, guess so and less electronic magnetic fields going into your body if router is in bedroom for some reason. Is there but not used as more hassle than it is worth as like the phone on at some daft time of the morning checking email.


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Standard User shtu
(experienced) Wed 08-Feb-12 16:18:04
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Re: Why upgrade Home Hub ?


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Does the old one change channel on it's own to avoid the neighbours routers.

No, just spend 30 minutes doing it (once) yourself, probably to 1 or 6.

In reply to a post by Daniel_g:
The new one can have a memory device, guess external Hard disk but I use a memory stick as it has a usb hole on the back and that shows up on network

The old ones (v1 and v2) can do this, though it's not supported.

In reply to a post by Daniel_g:
It can have power save and set a time the wireless shuts down, at night in bed.

The v2 ones have this feature, and if you're especially worried about the em radiation of the wireless part, I have the solution.

http://www.baco.co.uk/images/products/01352-BacoFoil...

Fashion a natty hat out of it. wink

More seriously, if the existing one works for the OP, don't spend £50 to change it.
Standard User Daniel_g
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 16:25:59
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nice one.

did not know about the earlier version.
Just thought I would throw in a few clever bits of this one.
The memory stick there showing up on the computer but not plugged into is nice, but being a bit lazy I will hear people say I guess.

Can file share between computer I know but have to be on so this might have had its use.

Guessing the link was something funny but did not work, might be me. To many pages are not working lately, them not existing or BT dns rubbish, one or the other I guess.

Will try again later or try a shorter version of it and find what you had in mind.

Useless computer, link going now. Foil on my head. nice. The thing is far enough in a cupboard not to bother me but routers in the bedroom or mobiles left on doing the data thing all night checking what ever like mine does, not good year after year.
Read that somewhere, don't have smart phone by the bed when asleep. must be something in it.

I don't apart from maybe early when caroline gets up and me 1 /1/2 hours later. She is out the door 5.30 keen!

Edited by Daniel_g (Wed 08-Feb-12 16:29:15)

Standard User Daniel_g
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 16:30:42
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looks expensive. Would tesco value do!.

Working link now so not them, is it me or BT, useless web pages. Another story.
And I know about open dns so one to try if it really annoys me.
Standard User m0aur
(committed) Wed 08-Feb-12 18:53:40
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BT recently had a smack from the ASA over their claim that the Hub 3 is the only router to avoid interference, when all routers will in auto mode.

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Standard User Daniel_g
(member) Wed 08-Feb-12 19:07:24
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Have had questions on here before like the opening one and I said it jumps channel like others do but BT bang on about it. I thought it was being a bit rude to other makes of router, wireless point that does. The old version 1 o2 box from 2007 did auto mode and the other router I have as linked up both does as well. I thought nothing new or just them, read an article about the bolloc**** they had.

And still run the advert.
all good stuff.

Maybe it is based on standard supplied routers. Can alway buy one even better than the hh.

My other one does loads more, never ending settings, can be a media server and can access this on the internet with you ip address, hh3, no chance.

Back to watching home and away.
heard the email arrive
Standard User db7
(member) Thu 16-Feb-12 22:01:08
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Thanks for the comments.

I think I'll hang onto my £49 and stick with my HH2.
Standard User MrGrumpy
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 17-Feb-12 10:39:19
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better investing your money in another router other than a HH if you don`t get on with it smile The HH in my experience is terrible, locks up frequently! Went back to it again out of curiosity and determined to make it work on my home network but failed miserably frown

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Standard User lelboy
(member) Sat 18-Feb-12 10:31:25
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Hmm, personal experience, of course, but I have to say that the kit provided by BT - HH3 & router - have worked perfectly well for me during the year I've been a BT Infinity customer. Not had any overheating problems, nor any other sort of problem.
I would, though, say that whlist the Infinity service itself is absolutely fine , my dealing with BT admin - mainly via India, but not always - has been terrible. So many cock-ups regarding phone number allocation, billing issues and complete unreliabilty when it comes to implementing agreed work, make me glad that I don't have to chase them for BB related issues themselves. Cheers, Les.
Standard User GerryCornell
(regular) Sun 19-Feb-12 13:47:54
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My first Home Hub 3 failed miserably but the second has worked fine. It does generate some kind of electrical field which interferes with signal from keyboard and mouse to the transponder in the USB port. Moving the Hub seems to have largely resolved the problem.

As another has said BT Admin performance is dismal both on the residential and commercial sides of BT. My vote would go for a change to small local call centres with more multi skilled staff. The service falls down because it relies on messages going from one to another. One person dealing with a task is always going to be better than many people processing a single task.

Regards,

Gerry
Standard User meteosat
(member) Tue 21-Feb-12 10:23:55
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The BIG bad thing about the HH3 is the problem with port-forwarding - apart from the problems in setting it up for devices like web cams etc. It doesn't do loop-back so the only way you can test it out is to go somewhere else and check the URL through their connection. No firmware update promised.

Am looking for a different hub.
Standard User shtu
(experienced) Tue 21-Feb-12 13:04:31
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What I tend to use for that situation is

http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
Standard User spranglebolt
(member) Wed 22-Feb-12 09:39:52
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I don't pretend to understand the techie stuff you guys are posting here.

All I can say is that, my HH2 having given up the ghost, I contacted BT and a decent bloke in the subcontinent immediately arranged to replace with HH3. It arrived the next working day and set-up was easypeasy - even for me. As yet I haven't noticed any difference in performance, up or down.

I've had frustration with support in the past, but this bloke was attentive and polite - even ringing back to check it had arrived. I guess it depnds who you speak to.

Whatsever happened to those 2nd level btcare folk in Belfast?
Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 22-Feb-12 10:37:59
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My HH3 (B) has been nothing other than brilliant, since November its not missed a beat, Ive been through some routers in the last 10 years and the HH3 is the best one i have had providing you only want the basic functions. Wireless range is impressive and the channel switching (should you use it) works miles quicker than on a "normal" router in auto.

However on mine BT Fon has activated on its own and i cant get it off, not even a phone call got them to send the signal to shut it off and a reset no longer seems to work. For this reason alone i am now looking in to alternatives which obviously wont broadcast Fon.
Standard User spranglebolt
(member) Wed 22-Feb-12 17:40:36
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Thanks Alnath. I now see that I too have been fon enabled by default, and will take all steps to disable.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 22-Feb-12 19:58:21
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Thanks Alnath. I now see that I too have been fon enabled by default, and will take all steps to disable.
Why? Don't you use BT Openzone, or do you regularly have neighbours slowing you down?



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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 22-Feb-12 22:17:44
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We all have unlimited data on our mobile phones mate. Although using inSSIDer the next to stongest networks to my own network all are home hubs broadcasting fon etc.
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 23-Feb-12 08:23:34
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One of the benefits I can see, is that the HH3 does both ADSL and VDSL, so no need for the the ISP to replace, FOC if and when, it's punters go to it's Infinity service.

It's got a gig lan port as well, handy for moving big files around internally.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 23-Feb-12 09:02:57
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It's got a gig lan port as well, handy for moving big files around internally.
For people who have an auxiliary gig switch smile.

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