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Standard User Greigster
(member) Mon 12-Mar-12 18:06:07
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Can I get faster Broadband


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Hi I hope someone can advise me.
I have been with BT for about 3 months now and I thought I would get about 6mps down speed from the figures given when I signed up.
I dont understand the home hub stats but perhaps someone can tell if I am likely to get any faster speeds, here are the Speed test and Hub stats.


ADSL Line Status
Connection information
Line state: Connected
Connection time: 0 day, 07:47:41
Downstream: 3,531 Kbps
Upstream: 1,067 Kbps

ADSL settings

VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.3 Annex A
Latency type: Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up): 5.6 dB / 6.4 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 44.5 dB / 23.4 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 0.0 dBm / 12.7 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up): 69804 / 187
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up): 16951 / 192
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 118

This is my BT speed test



FAQ




1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
2.49 Mbps

0 Kbps 4 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed

Download speedachieved during the test was - 2.49 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 1.2 Mbps-4 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 3.4 Mbps

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
914 Kbps

0 Kbps 832 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 914Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 832 Kbps .

These tests were done with BT Homehub3 plugged into the test socket on the master box.
I do not have any other phone sockets in the house.
I am about 3.4 kilometres from the exchange.

I do not understand any of the above test results so perhaps someone could advise me in simple terms.

I had a similar problem at a previous address and was advised to have interleaving switched on.

Thanks in advance.
Standard User Greigster
(member) Mon 12-Mar-12 18:12:02
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These are my Thinkbroadband tests for today.

12/03/12 18:07 Mon 2955 Kbps 865 Kbps 86.186.101.179 Home
12/03/12 17:37 Mon 2955 Kbps 888 Kbps 86.186.101.179 Home
12/03/12 14:49 Mon 2956 Kbps 886 Kbps 86.186.101.179 Home
12/03/12 10:56 Mon 2928 Kbps 888 Kbps 86.186.101.179 Home
12/03/12 10:39 Mon 1278 Kbps 888 Kbps 86.186.101.179 Home
12/03/12 10:11 Mon 819 Kbps 888 Kbps 86.186.101.179 Home
12/03/12 10:07 Mon 948 Kbps 891 Kbps 86.130.10.195 Home
12/03/12 10:05 Mon 1110 Kbps 891 Kbps 86.130.10.195 Home
12/03/12 09:58 Mon 2250 Kbps 890 Kbps 86.130.10.195
12/03/12 09:33 Mon 2993 Kbps 855 Kbps 86.147.184.193 Home
12/03/12 09:29 Mon 3208 Kbps 902 Kbps 86.147.9.61 Home

The 4 low results were after I had unpluged the homehub to put in the test socket
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 12-Mar-12 19:45:45
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In reply to a post by Greigster:
Downstream: 3,531 Kbps
This should be at least 6 Meg, resulting in speedtests of > 5 Meg.

Have you removed ring wire, swapped filters, .. ?

You should get your best speeds from test socket. For some reason you didn't?

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Standard User Greigster
(member) Mon 12-Mar-12 20:00:11
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Thanks for your fast reply,
This master socket was installed by BT 3 months ago, would they have connected a ring wire? I dont have any extension sockets, I only have the BT master socket. I have tried another filter but got the same results.
ISP Representative BT_Care
(isp) Tue 13-Mar-12 11:12:58
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Hi Greigster,

Sorry to see that you feel you're not getting the fastest speed we told you you'd get when placing your order.

I'm happy to have a look your connection to see if we can improve your broadband speed. You can get in touch with me here http://bt.custhelp.com/app/contact_email/c/4950 and I'll get back to you.

I'll look forward to hearing from you. Chat soon.

Best wishes,

Robbie
BTCare Team
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Standard User Greigster
(member) Tue 13-Mar-12 15:39:39
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Hi Robbie, thanks for your contact.
I have sent back the details required with Ref. No 120313-006053

Regards
Greigster
Standard User Greigster
(member) Wed 14-Mar-12 19:18:20
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Hi Robbie, Can you confirm receipt of my details.

Thanks
Standard User Greigster
(member) Sun 18-Mar-12 10:46:19
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BT engineer coming Tuesday morning
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Sun 18-Mar-12 13:09:24
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Did BT advise you to try another router/broadband lead/filter (or offer to send you a replacement router etc.) at the test socket before the engineer's visit was booked?
Standard User Greigster
(member) Tue 20-Mar-12 16:58:48
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Hi , no I was not offered another router etc. but for BT to arrange an broadband specialist visit so quickly seems a much better option to me.
The engineer visited my house today and tested my socket using his testing equipment and came up with the same results that I came up with when I did a speed test/router stats, which I presume confirms that any problems are further "up the line".
He went off to do something at the cabinet and said he would have to do something at the exchange.
I dont know if he has finished yet but my broadband seems slower that ever. Perhaps I have to wait for things to settle down?

Here are my latest test results:-

ADSL Line Status
Connection information
Line state: Connected
Connection time: 0 day, 06:23:37
Downstream: 3,983 Kbps
Upstream: 1,071 Kbps

ADSL settings

VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.3 Annex A
Latency type: Fast
Noise margin (Down/Up): 5.7 dB / 6.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 44.5 dB / 23.3 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 0 / 0
CRC Events (Down/Up): 160840 / 231
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up): 46699 / 173
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 144


1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
2.79 Mbps

0 Kbps 4 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed

Download speedachieved during the test was - 2.79 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 1.2 Mbps-4 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 3.51 Mbps

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
920 Kbps

0 Kbps 832 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 920Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 832 Kbps


Results since BT visit
Day Downstream Upstream IP Address Connection
20/03/12 16:47 Tue 2092 Kbps 892 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home
20/03/12 16:16 Tue 1441 Kbps 889 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home
20/03/12 14:36 Tue 2201 Kbps 844 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx
20/03/12 14:32 Tue 2194 Kbps 892 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home
20/03/12 14:07 Tue 1612 Kbps 892 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home
20/03/12 10:09 Tue 2653 Kbps 884 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home
19/03/12 22:05 Mon 3029 Kbps 884 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx
18/03/12 10:42 Sun 3048 Kbps 888 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx
16/03/12 14:09 Fri 3031 Kbps 888 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home
13/03/12 08:58 Tue 2928 Kbps 889 Kbps 86.14xxxxxx Home


Have not heard back from the BT engineer as yet.

Edited by Greigster (Tue 20-Mar-12 17:00:46)

Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Tue 20-Mar-12 19:06:08
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With a 44.5dB downstream attenuation and 5.7dB sn margin with ADSL1 a ~6Mbps Max Achievable Speed might be expected and an IP profile of ~5Mbps.

However you are connected via ADSL2 which should increase your Max Achievable speed [ADSL2+ (21CN) with a 44.5 dB downstream attenuation would be ~7.5Mbps and IP profile ~6.5Mbps] perhaps others can comment on how attenuation may be different if one has a ADSL2 and not a ADSL1 connection on the same line.

However your downstream sync is relatively poor, let's hope the engineer has fixed the problem and that your line will settle down in due course.

Edited by 4M2 (Tue 20-Mar-12 19:19:40)

Standard User Greigster
(member) Tue 20-Mar-12 19:18:22
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Thanks 4M2,
I dont quite know what is happening as I have heard no more since this morning when the engineer left!
He seemed to think that changing from fast to interleaving may help.

So it all seems a bit up in the air.
Standard User Greigster
(member) Wed 21-Mar-12 20:03:15
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Well, another day and still no further contact from BT!
It seems odd that an BT Broadband engineer should spend time at my house and presumably at the cabinet and exchange and then not update me as to whether any faults have been found or not.
If I took my car into the garage because it was running slow, I believe they would attempt to repair it and perhaps inform me as to the problem and whether or not it had been fixed....... wouldn't they?
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 22-Mar-12 01:20:31
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The engineer's report may be forwarded to your ISP in due course - rather like medical records the patient often doesn't normally see them frown

Last year I wanted to see an OR SFI engineer's report that had been sent to my former ISP but I never did see it - however the engineer did call me, after he had checked the line on the same day, and gave me some fairly useful snippets of information: "Exchange problem - don't think I've fixed it...possibly x, possibly y..." frown
Standard User Greigster
(member) Thu 22-Mar-12 23:40:38
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Thanks 4M2,

I have asked BT to switch me to interleaved, I will just have to wait and see what happens.
Standard User shrimper1
(member) Sat 24-Mar-12 22:20:29
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A bit late, but have you checked this site out for comparable speeds in your area :-

http://www.broadbandspeedchecker.co.uk/broadband_spe...
Standard User Greigster
(member) Wed 28-Mar-12 09:33:29
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Thanks for that info. I have just checked and it seems that my speed is average for this area.
Its a shame that the information given regarding estimated speed when I was signing up to BT was 80% more than I am actually getting!!
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 28-Mar-12 09:53:28
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Estimate was out because something is odd with the line or your wiring.

Estimate looks to be about right looking at the actual measured attenuation, just equipment is under performing due to noise.

A line problem would be the same on all the providers on that line.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
Standard User Greigster
(member) Wed 28-Mar-12 12:49:45
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Thanks Andrew, Does that mean thats my lot?
About 30 seconds after my last post, my homehub3 started flashing and I lost my internet. After a couple of minutes, it came back on and when I did a speed test, it seems to have improves a little!
Last night I reset the homehub to see if that would help but to no avail.

Here are my new figures after this mornings "hub self reset"


1. Best Effort Test: -provides background information.

Download Speed
3.26 Mbps

0 Kbps 4 Mbps
Max Achievable Speed

Download speedachieved during the test was - 3.26 Mbps
For your connection, the acceptable range of speeds is 1.2 Mbps-4 Mbps.
IP Profile for your line is - 4.01 Mbps

2. Upstream Test: -provides background information.

Upload Speed
594 Kbps

0 Kbps 832 Kbps
Max Achievable Speed

Upload speed achieved during the test was - 594Kbps
Additional Information:
Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 832 Kbps

28/03/12 12:40 Wed 3684 Kbps 739 Kbps 86.151.199.154 Home
28/03/12 12:31 Wed 3755 Kbps 739 Kbps 86.151.199.154 Home
28/03/12 09:51 Wed 3776 Kbps 739 Kbps 86.151.199.154 Home
28/03/12 09:36 Wed 3582 Kbps 737 Kbps 86.151.199.154 Home
THIS WAS AFTER THE HOMEHUB SELF RESET
28/03/12 09:21 Wed 3186 Kbps 732 Kbps 86.145.118.67
27/03/12 21:11 Tue 3185 Kbps 712 Kbps 86.145.118.67
27/03/12 20:35 Tue 3163 Kbps 738 Kbps 86.184.92.24 Home
27/03/12 11:03 Tue 3152 Kbps 738 Kbps 109.145.96.144 Home
26/03/12 18:21 Mon 3161 Kbps 736 Kbps 86.140.163.107 Home
26/03/12 07:59 Mon 3163 Kbps 738 Kbps 86.184.94.166 Home
THIS IS WHEN INTERLEAVING WAS STARTED
25/03/12 12:33 Sun 3327 Kbps 891 Kbps 86.148.125.215 Home
24/03/12 19:33 Sat 3332 Kbps 883 Kbps 109.145.100.236 Home
24/03/12 10:28 Sat 3334 Kbps 891 Kbps 86.144.164.170


Line state: Connected
Connection time: 0 day, 03:07:15
Downstream: 4,540 Kbps
Upstream: 888 Kbps

ADSL settings

VPI/VCI: 0/38
Type: PPPoA
Modulation: G.992.5 Annex A
Latency type: Interleaved
Noise margin (Down/Up): 3.3 dB / 11.2 dB
Line attenuation (Down/Up): 47.5 dB / 23.3 dB
Output power (Down/Up): 0.0 dBm / 12.8 dBm
FEC Events (Down/Up): 10099058 / 1578
CRC Events (Down/Up): 21056 / 27
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
HEC Errors (Down/Up): 14265 / 46
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 11
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 28-Mar-12 13:05:17
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The system seems to have reduced your sync-time noise margin to 3dB from the default 6dB, as it has decided it is stable. That has added considerably to your downstream connection speed.

It's worth noting, if you don't already know, that connecting during daylight hours is likely to give you a higher speed (ongoing) than connecting at other times.

We can also see from those stats that you this time it is on ADSL2+, whereas earlier it was ADSL2. The attenuation has risen by a few dB, as it often does on that change. It is possible, (not certain), that if we can find a way of getting you back down to ADSL2 that another few hundred kbps will appear.

Don't go messing a lot though, or it might put you back to a 6dB margin and lose the big gain.

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Edited by RobertoS (Wed 28-Mar-12 13:06:19)

Standard User Greigster
(member) Wed 28-Mar-12 20:00:22
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Thanks RobertoS,
I will leave it to its own devices now and just keep my fingers crossed.

Was this increase/change to ADSL2+ anything to do with me changind from fast to interleaved? and why did the homehub just restart on its own?

How will it get back down to ADSL2?

Sorry for all the questions

Edited by Greigster (Wed 28-Mar-12 20:03:23)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 28-Mar-12 21:13:33
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In reply to a post by Greigster:
Was this increase/change to ADSL2+ anything to do with me changind from fast to interleaved?
I think you were still on ADSL2 after interleaving was turned on.
and why did the homehub just restart on its own?
Because that was when the DLM reset your sync-time margin from 6dB to 3dB. This causes a re-sync.
How will it get back down to ADSL2?
It won't without manual intervention, or loads of errors making the system change its mind. For now, be happy with ADSL2+ and the higher speed. Deliberately causing ADSL2 is geek-stuff and BT first line support wouldn't even know what you were on about.

On BT, with the Home Hub, I expect the idea is a dead duck anyway, without support setting it. Then if it wasn't the best idea in the world, getting it unset may be even harder. The only practicable way is with an alternative router of your own, where you can force it and revert it easily yourself.
Sorry for all the questions
I like trying to help.

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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Wed 28-Mar-12 23:02:21
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Bob,

Would one see an increased downstream attenuation with adsl2 compared to adsl1 on the same line? If so would it still be less than adsl2+ ?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 29-Mar-12 00:14:06
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No ... N/A!

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 29-Mar-12 00:18:24
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That has added considerably to your downstream connection speed.
Not much! And should be getting over 6 Meg on ADSL2+ even @ 6dB NM.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 29-Mar-12 00:54:58
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But we know there is some other underlying constraint, and finding it looks to be unlikely. We are just trying to tune what he gets in that situation.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 29-Mar-12 00:59:58
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In reply to a post by 4M2:
Bob,

Would one see an increased downstream attenuation with adsl2 compared to adsl1 on the same line? If so would it still be less than adsl2+ ?
As XRaySpeX says, no smile. There are lots of arguments about this, as some connections don't change at all, but what is known is that ADSL(1) and ADSL2 attenuations are always the same, given the same router. ADSL2+ can be the same, very occasionally lower, and often 2-4dB higher.

When it is higher, on 6Mbps and below, it seems frequently to be associated with a lower sync than ADSL2 gets. The argument tends to be about the cause and effect, but the result is observable.

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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 29-Mar-12 01:30:57
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Thanks for the clarification Bob smile

So the OP's adsl2 downstream attenuation would be the same with a adsl1 connection and the increased attenuation now reported with adsl2+ looks about right. Certainly I've heard that on a long line adsl1 can sync at a higher rate than adsl2+ (due to loop loss in the higher frequencies?) but is adsl2 more susceptible to noise than adsl1?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 29-Mar-12 08:21:47
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I haven't actually compared (same modem) ADSL an ADSL2 error rates. It seems to be accepted that ADSL2+ rates are higher. But if the sync speed of ADSL2 is the highest of the three, the throughput also seems to be the highest, therefore the error rate doesn't matter.

If it isn't the highest sync and throughput then it isn't the right choice. Simples smile. The reasons aren't too important, as long as home wiring has already been optimised.

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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 29-Mar-12 11:09:07
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Interesting stuff smile

One thing that I have discovered with adsl2+ (SMPF) is that if I resync at night I lose a few hundred downstream K (~13900 down to ~13450) yet attenuation and SN Margin stays the same (36.5dB and 6dB) but I get far fewer errors reported by the router (tg585 v7).

I feel happier with a slightly lower downstream sync (and corresponding throughput) with fewer errors and hence greater stability but this might be a total misconception?
Standard User greenglide
(member) Thu 29-Mar-12 12:25:10
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If you sync at night you would expect lower speeds due to higher noise levels.

The SNR will be the target set by the DSLAM which determines the speed. The SNR will normally rise during the day and then fall back at night.

The recomendation to synchronise during the day is to attempt to get the maximum performance out of a stable line. Synchronisation at night gives maximum stability out of a noisy (long) line.

The BE system whereby you can choose the target SNR (unless you are on the value product) is great because you can set it to the lowest of the three steps at which it is stable.

I would go for slightly less speed for greater stability as well!

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Now with BE Unlimited - 21,000 Download 1,200 Upload! Never happier!
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Thu 29-Mar-12 14:22:31
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Thanks for the info greenglide smile

I'm running on a copper pair that was laid about 40years ago underground on a residential street and about 200 yards from the cabinet, so I think I will continue to resync adsl2+ at night.

Certainly when I was on adsl1 it was always better to sync during the day for max speed yet error rates were about the same during the day and night and the SN Margin seemed to remain unchanged also. Biggest influence on downstream speed was through using a pressac filtered faceplate (with one voice extension off the back - no bell wire) rather than the filter/splitters supplied with the Plusnet branded tg585 v7 router which could be as much as 500Kbps.

Edited by 4M2 (Thu 29-Mar-12 14:42:34)

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