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Standard User phope
(newbie) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:13:54
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Exchange finally getting 21CN


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Not quite Infinity, but that may take a few years yet!

Local exchange is Laurencekirk - small residential village, and I believe the upgraded service goes live at the end of November 2012

http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange/ESLAK

Currently on ADSL Max package with BT Broadband, syncing at 7mbs, as we are less than 1/2 mile to the exchange, in a modern development - nice steady connection, with no disruption

My question is that whilst I assume there is a potential speed gain with the 21CN upgrade, what sort of real life gains can be expected, and what, if anything, do I need to do with BT to upgrade the account?
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:19:45
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We'd need your router stats to be able to say; everyone's different.

Don't bank on that date. These are planned dates and have been known to slip often.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User phope
(newbie) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:24:47
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Of course- just nice to see some progress in the exchange - there have been regular works going on lately at the building, so something is certainly happening

Router stats...
Downstream Upstream
Data rate(Kbps) 7808 448
Noise Margin 12 26
Output power(dBm)0 13
Attenuation(dB 9 2


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Standard User indigobanana
(learned) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:40:59
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The stats make it look like you're next door to the exchange! You should receive the full 24 Mb/s sync.

My Broadband Speed Test

Now with PlusNet!

20CN ADSL Max frown
I live in hope...

Edited by indigobanana (Thu 25-Oct-12 23:41:33)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:42:26
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You're right on top of exchange. On 21CN ADSL2+ you should get the full 24 Meg Down and about 1.2 Meg Up.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User phope
(newbie) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:44:54
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Encouraging laugh

Once the exchange upgrade is complete, what do I need to do, if anything, with BT Broadband to get the speed upgrade?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 25-Oct-12 23:49:41
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They will nomally upgrade you automatically at no cost, but not straight away. It's cheaper for them to have their customers upgraded in batches when convenient for Openreach scheduling.

You can get an earlier upgrade, but most ISPs are charged extra by Openreach for that, and pass that charge on, about £11 I think.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User MHC
(legend) Fri 26-Oct-12 00:18:02
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At least you have a date! We do not even have that yet.


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Standard User Nessy57
(newbie) Tue 30-Oct-12 18:28:18
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Post deleted as deemed unhelp full.

Edited by Nessy57 (Tue 30-Oct-12 22:25:18)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 30-Oct-12 18:52:37
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Edited by RobertoS (Tue 30-Oct-12 19:44:07)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Oct-12 19:21:03
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Oct-12 19:26:59
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Where did "Attenuation(dB 9 2" come from earlier?
Probably meant to say "Attenuation(dB) 29 20" with some digits gobbled up smile. Fits with +3dB increase due to ADSL2+.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User huwwatkins
(member) Tue 30-Oct-12 19:29:30
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Where did "Attenuation(dB 9 2" come from earlier?
Probably meant to say "Attenuation(dB) 29 20" with some digits gobbled up smile. Fits with +3dB increase due to ADSL2+.


Its a different person posting.
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Oct-12 19:32:13
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True! Shows what confusion can arise from a poster hijacking a thread.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 19 Meg WBC
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 30-Oct-12 19:40:00
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In reply to a post by huwwatkins:
Its a different person posting.
Yuck! Thanks.

All the post needed was, somewhere in it, to justify the opening statement, was "In my experience". Then it might have been useful.

As it is, it looks more like a hijack (as suggested by XRaySpeX), than a contribution. I also believe it is incorrect and that the poster was misled. It is automatic for most ISPs, and I am fairly sure BT is one of those.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 30-Oct-12 19:46:59
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The attenuation shown there is 32.3dB.

That'sa fairly poor sync for that attenuation. I suggest a reconnection during daylight hours and then take the stats immediately after and post those. The noise margin looks high.

You should have a downstream connection speed of more in the 13-14Mbps range.

Your posting history suggests you attract problems tongue smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 57.4/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User phope
(newbie) Wed 31-Oct-12 20:46:09
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Perhaps this shows it better after a recent router restart

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28079959/Screen%20Shot%2020...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 31-Oct-12 21:05:32
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Now you're confused as well smile.

Those stats look fine. I got confused by Nessy57 - see the change of Subject in my post. Nessy has now deleted the confusing post.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 52.9/14.2Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User phope
(newbie) Sun 18-Nov-12 16:49:18
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Exchange went live a couple of weeks early - there was an email from BT early last week saying the upgrade date was going to be the 16th November smile

Line is still settling down, but this is the difference so far...

Download speed increased from 7936 to 14374, and upload speed increased from 448 to 1251

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28079959/routerstats.png
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 18-Nov-12 17:07:36
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Love the concept of settling down.

I'll just say if you think your sync speed is going to increase over a few days (i.e. at end of the 10 day period) I will be very shocked.

it looks to have decided on a 15dB target already, slowing you down from optimal, now this may be the result of errors not seen in those stats. This settling period goes on forever, so speed may improve in a jump in a few weeks time or it might not.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User phope
(newbie) Tue 11-Dec-12 21:16:06
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Hi all

Update - connection has been nice and steady for the last couple of weeks, and downstream has seen a steady increase in sync rate to the present 18 megabit, whilst upstream has been consistent, as expected

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28079959/Screen%20Shot%2020...
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