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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 12-Dec-12 13:16:01
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
The whole point of traffic shaping is to allow BT Vision to work given that BT have made a huge investment in Premier League football for next season. I think congestion tends to happen at the cab which is why BT employ shaping using TR069 - at a very granular level.

The advantage of a BT Business connection is that they guarantee a certain throughput, maybe 15 or even 30 Mbps. No such guarantee applies to BT Residential however, and everything is on a Best Effort basis including VOIP - not so comforting when Man U are playing Arsenal.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 12-Dec-12 13:46:21
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


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So still waiting on you explaining how TR-069 is doing the traffic shaping?

BT Vision is more about QoS controls, than the traffic management that is used for P2P throttling.

I think you are mixing and matching the BT Wholesale Best Efforts and Assured QoS options with what Retail do to traffic themselves.

http://www1.btwebworld.com/sinet/483v1p1.pdf

Remember that the Assured session booking actually costs money too.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 12-Dec-12 14:33:45
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
So still waiting on you explaining how TR-069 is doing the traffic shaping?
I've already suggested you ask BT. Did you?


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 12-Dec-12 14:46:42
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
Not yet because its the sort of thing I need to discuss offline with them, as many more questions to be asked.

Why don't you just explain then everyone can learn.

The FON set aside will require changes to the router configuration and as such I expect these parameters for the upstream QoS control to be sent across when FON channel is enabled, but the day to day traffic management relating to P2P and VoIP are not going to use TR-069 because the obvious way around the restrictions would be for a customer to use a router other than the HomeHub.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 12-Dec-12 14:54:44
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


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All I can say is what happened to my connection and the steps I took to fix it. The bottom line is that I noticed TR069 entries on my router log corresponding to when my speed was reduced. I stealthed the open port on the modem and I haven't had a slow down since. I asked BT but received no response.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 12-Dec-12 14:59:45
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
So you are saying that you now get full speed all the time on all protocols by simply stealthing the port used for TR-069?

Or was this an across the board type speed drop?

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 12-Dec-12 15:05:48
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


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Certainly on all the protocols I use. I don't use P2P however so I don't know about that one. I mention P2P as that's the only one BT admit to throttling.


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Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 12-Dec-12 22:16:25
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


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Did you have issues with the BTHomehub or just wanted a better router?

I already had the 2820Vn and the HomeHub is a very very simple router. Functional but nothing special.

There's no reason to go for the business plans over the domestic, we have business ADSL at work as work needs them to bill under the big BT contract, and so we can't get the domestic tarrif level - we have no need for the "business add ons" that BT are selling. Not noticed any difference in the IP connection apart from my domestic Infinity is capable of higher speeds.

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 12-Dec-12 22:17:11
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
All I can say is what happened to my connection and the steps I took to fix it. The bottom line is that I noticed TR069 entries on my router log corresponding to when my speed was reduced. I stealthed the open port on the modem and I haven't had a slow down since. I asked BT but received no response.

I wonder if that's an artefact of using the Huawei as a router - rather than the Huawei passing PPPoE through itself from the external router. Could be a Huawei firmware issue perhaps.

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 12-Dec-12 22:25:14
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Re: VOIP and BT Infinity 2 traffic shaping


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... we have no need for the "business add ons" that BT are selling.
What about the faster fault fixing?

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