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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Dec-12 23:17:34
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Hi

i am opted out from Bt Fon but notice the other day my BT HH3 is SSID BT WIFI with Fon and BT WIFI

Both the displayed networks allow devices to connect and provide a connection

I have reset the router but the above still displays how do I disable BT Fon and stop it from broadcasting its ssid

Thanks

Lee
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 21-Dec-12 23:25:04
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There is, of course, a silly answer smile.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Dec-12 23:28:34
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Stop using the HH3. That way, you don't have to opt out and you can still use BT Wifi when out and about.


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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 21-Dec-12 23:54:58
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what product would be a good option to consider?

Lee
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 22-Dec-12 00:02:52
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Depends what you want - cheap or fast?
Is wireless a priority?
Do you want Gigabit ports?
Do you want a VPN endpoint?

There are many cable routers available, you just need one that can offer a PPPOE connection. But most importantly you want one that isn't vulnerable to the WPS hack.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 22-Dec-12 11:57:34
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Around the £130 mark (up to around £250) Wireless important and at least one gigbit port

Lee
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 22-Dec-12 12:28:05
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Have a browse of the Fibre forum. The Fritz box seems favourite, but IIRC there are Drayteks and Billions.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet Extra Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 54.0/14.9Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Edited by RobertoS (Sat 22-Dec-12 12:28:22)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 22-Dec-12 12:33:34
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He's after routers not modem/routers, I think. Like your Buffalo
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Sat 22-Dec-12 12:42:38
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
He's after routers not modem/routers, I think. Like your Buffalo


Which the Draytek's are both.

The current favourite seems to be the Asus kit that Mr Saffron reviewed recently, RT-N66U which is a router only.

viz:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/76-as...

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/wireless-routers/1295...

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User professor973
(committed) Sat 22-Dec-12 12:50:09
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
He's after routers not modem/routers, I think. Like your Buffalo

I am not so sure that he is, after all he is using a HH3 at the moment with no mention of the mode it is running, just that he wants BT Fon switched off. I own both the Billion 7800N and the Fritzbox 7930. The Fritzbox gives much information along with being overly expensive. I find the Billion much more reliable. Also the Fritzbox cannot be set to PPPoE.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 22-Dec-12 12:57:38
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In reply to a post by professor973:
In reply to a post by BatBoy:
He's after routers not modem/routers, I think. Like your Buffalo

I am not so sure that he is, after all he is using a HH3 at the moment with no mention of the mode it is running
There's only one mode it can run on Infinity.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 22-Dec-12 12:58:01
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What use is just one Gigabit port? If your connection is FTTC the best you will get is 80Mbps and if you want fast transfers from server to PC or PC to PC then two Gbit ports are needed.


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Standard User professor973
(committed) Sat 22-Dec-12 13:44:56
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Ah yes, I remember now. My noggin was full of Fritzboxes that don't play ball with PPoE on Annex A. Put it down to a senior moment and lack of sleep!

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Standard User professor973
(committed) Sat 22-Dec-12 13:48:43
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When I am running a Router with just one Gigabit port I direct it to a Gigabit switch, though I expect someone will claim it detrimental compared to a built in router switch.

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 22-Dec-12 14:05:36
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In reply to a post by professor973:
When I am running a Router with just one Gigabit port I direct it to a Gigabit switch, though I expect someone will claim it detrimental compared to a built in router switch.


Not detrimental at all* - just put everything through the switch. Let the router manage DHCP and traffic to/from the modem and the switch handles all the local traffic. Even then a single Gbit interface does not give any real advantage.



* Although I know someone who will claim it is.


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Edited by MHC (Sat 22-Dec-12 14:17:33)

Standard User StephenTodd
(committed) Sat 22-Dec-12 14:40:48
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One case where a single gigabit port might help.

If you have gigabit capable 'server' connected to the gigabit port, and three 'clients' connected to the other ports.
Each client can only talk to the server at 100Mb. However, in theory, they can all talk to the server at 100Mb each simultaneously.
(I don't know if the HomeHub or other single gigabit port router would actually allow it all to go that fast or not).

Or, if there is a gigabit switch involved, the three slow 'clients' can talk simultaneously to any device on the switch at 100Mb each simultaneously.

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(deleted) Sat 22-Dec-12 14:43:29
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How would that be better than all ports being Gigabit?
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sat 22-Dec-12 14:51:43
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Have tried that config on a couple of routers with two ports streaming from the server and one on a large download from the web and the best I have seen is a combined 120Mbps? VDSL2 synced at just over 50Mbps would normally give a 48|Mbps speedtest would only run at the low 30s. One port might be capable but the bus certainly was not and the load on the CPU slowed down the WAN interface. On ADSL2+ it was just as bad (or worse) as the processor was having to control the modem too.


Edit to add:


If someone want to run a Gbit network then choose a decent switch to do it, don't rely on the router even if it has four Gbit ports. Modem to interface to the line, router to manage the routing and a switch to handle the traffic. Minimise the load on individual parts where possible and let them do what they are designed to do.


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Edited by MHC (Sat 22-Dec-12 14:56:37)

Standard User StephenTodd
(committed) Sat 22-Dec-12 16:04:51
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BatBoy, if you were referring to my post 'One case where a single gigabit port might help.' when you ask How would that be better than all ports being Gigabit?

It wouldn't. All I was saying is that there are cases where 1 gigabit port on a router is better than none.

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(deleted) Sat 22-Dec-12 16:09:20
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Ah, ok. I'd rather pay the extra £15 for a gigabit switch.
Standard User kitcat
(member) Sat 22-Dec-12 17:32:05
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Leenig

The quickest way is to go the BT site and Opt out

This will take a few hours to work it's way through the system. If it doesn't show you opted in. opt in wait 24 hours than opt out this should then remove the BTFON from your home hub. You must leave the home hub connected whilst you do this otherwise it will not change the settings on it.

Could it be that you originally opted out when the Home hub was not being used?
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Sun 23-Dec-12 12:41:02
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In reply to a post by MHC:
If someone want to run a Gbit network then choose a decent switch to do it, don't rely on the router even if it has four Gbit ports. Modem to interface to the line, router to manage the routing and a switch to handle the traffic. Minimise the load on individual parts where possible and let them do what they are designed to do.


Only one reason for a single gigabit port (as Draytek 2820 has) is for the WiFi - N can often run faster than 100megabit.

Wired LAN to N WiFi - and forget the WAN smile

James BT Infinity 2 19/09/2012 - Estimate 44.6/6.5 - Install 52/12 - Actual 46 / 8 Mbps
13 years of broadband - 1999 ntl:(512k/1M)/BTbusiness(2M)/Metronet(2M)/Bulldog(8M/16M)/BE(19M/16M)/BT FTTC(46M)
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Sun 23-Dec-12 13:00:44
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For one device maybe ...

And only if it is within a metre of two!


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