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Standard User Tazz_uk
(committed) Sat 11-Apr-15 12:14:38
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Home Hub 5A no longer getting full sync due to INP


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Hello

Has anyone else noticed that since Impulse Noise Protection​ has been enabled the Max Sync can longer be achieved on the HH 5A. The max DS is 78/9 Mb and US is around 16Mb... The max achievable on both is way over the max speed you can sync..

Latency also increased dramatically... If I go back to my Huawei modem I can get max sync again and low latency.

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Standard User Tazz_uk
(experienced) Sat 11-Apr-15 21:05:20
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For anyone interested here is the link about this on the Kitz forum: http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,15283.msg284...

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 12-Apr-15 10:31:53
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Yep, ended up getting a Huawei modem off ebay, flashing it and sticking that in front of the type A HH5


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Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Sun 12-Apr-15 10:45:57
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All I can say is call BT and explain the issue and ask if you can have a Type B hub sent out....

However the chances of them doing it is probably small as they will say their isn't a fault

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 13-Apr-15 16:00:42
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I wonder if BT will release a firmware.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Mon 13-Apr-15 18:54:03
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Depends if the chipset supports G.INP at all and if the chipset manufacturer has released drivers to make compatible with G.INP...

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 14-Apr-15 09:42:44
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How stupid are BT if one of there widely distributed products is not compatible with what it was intended to use lol
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Tue 14-Apr-15 09:48:43
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Well The HH5 does support G.INP but only the Type B modem it seems,

Unfortunately people in areas requiring a HH5 Type B got a Typa A version instead..

The Type A has a chipset similar to the ECI modems and is not "YET" compatible with G.INP but its been confirmed that the Tybe B which has a similar/same chipset as the HG612 modem is compatible with G.INP and is currently working fine with G.INP..

As I've probably mentioned before... my neighbor has just had a replacement HH5 after a fault with his previous one and that is a Type A... he is seeing a decrease in speed and increase in latency...

Unfortunately I've not bothered telling him as he would go mad, and BT won't do anything yet as it hasn't been confirmed as the issue and his line is still syncing at a speed with BT Wholesales estimate and Residential ISP's or many ISP's at all actually don't guarantee Latency/Ping so they wouldn't see it as a fault!

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 14-Apr-15 10:04:07
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My max achievable is the lowest i have ever seen it but it is still well above the highest sync so its not really a problem for me if indeed G.INP is even the cause. A higher ping isnt a major downer either, i might not get clobbered with lag compensation so much on COD.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Tue 14-Apr-15 10:08:00
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Well max achievable being lowered might not be G.INP issue but to be honest I and others haven't really got to grips with everything G.INP yet so were still learning..

As long as your connection is stable (Latency/ping wise) then gaming should be OK, it's when latency becomes unstable and varies that games like COD kick you or become very screwy due to the system at their end working overtime to work out what your ping is!

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Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 14-Apr-15 11:02:28
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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
Well max achievable being lowered might not be G.INP issue but to be honest I and others haven't really got to grips with everything G.INP yet so were still learning..

As long as your connection is stable (Latency/ping wise) then gaming should be OK, it's when latency becomes unstable and varies that games like COD kick you or become very screwy due to the system at their end working overtime to work out what your ping is!


Nar a fast ping on cod is the last thing you want, you pull host all the time, get clobbered with lag compensation as the netcode attempts to remove any advantage you might have and you spend the entire time shooting ghosts. It was much more enjoyable on 5Mbit ADSL with a 50ms ping thats for sure.

I've dug my old modem out from under the bed and tested it anyway just in case it all goes belly up.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Tue 14-Apr-15 11:19:46
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It was much more enjoyable on 5Mbit ADSL with a 50ms ping thats for sure.


Yes that I can agree with... I'm thinking about getting a 2nd line for a cheap as chips ADSL connection just for the XBOX....

Currently looks like EE might be cheapest as I'm an EE customer and it works out at £168 for a year of Broadband and Line Rental with them!

Also might benefit me too as no static IP means harder for Hackers to DDOS connection and what ever other [censored] they do...

When I was with Virgin I had to use my connection with a router for a month rather than Superhub as my IP was getting attacked and taking me offline and Virgin wouldn't do sh**e about it.

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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 15-Apr-15 11:44:41
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Still yet to see G.INP on my line. I've got a Type A though so maybe that's a good thing.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-Apr-15 11:58:37
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Are you on Huawei cabinet?
Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 15-Apr-15 18:37:44
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Yes 288 line cab.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 15-Apr-15 18:55:00
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You won't see G.INP on a HH5 Type A unless BT update the firmware.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Wed 15-Apr-15 18:55:35
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The cab will be G.INP activated then...

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Standard User wolvesmad
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 16-Apr-15 12:03:48
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So I need a HG612 then?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 16-Apr-15 12:17:32
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That would work.
Standard User mlmclaren
(experienced) Thu 16-Apr-15 16:01:01
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In reply to a post by wolvesmad:
So I need a HG612 then?


or a Type B HH5...

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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Apr-15 17:15:39
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So I need a HG612 then?

I suppose the unlocked firmware images for the HG612 are quite old now. Does anyone know if the unlocked images support INP?

Oliver.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 16-Apr-15 17:37:32
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Yes, the ...030SP08 does.

I had to install it to resolve the problem.


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Standard User Oliver341
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 16-Apr-15 17:53:30
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Yes, the ...030SP08 does.

I had to install it to resolve the problem.

Thanks.

I suppose potentially there could be people having trouble with HG612's which were unlocked some time ago, if they are not automatically being flashed with latest firmware with INP support (due to it being disabled in firmware, or disabled by the user).

Oliver.
Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Wed 13-May-15 09:58:50
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I dug my old HG612 out the other week, i was previously unlocked etc. but when i tried to get in to the web interface it because clear it had at some point been re-flashed with a BT firmware and was locked again so i had to unlock it again.
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