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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Fri 15-May-15 12:31:29
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Infinity install help sought please


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Hi

An elderly friend, quite happily using BT broadband was recently persuaded by BT to switch to an Infinity based package. He's now received the box though not yet opened it. As he's was rushed into hospital earlier in the week for a couple of days he's no idea whether there have been any emails about the switch-over date, install procedures, whatever. And as his wife is in a care home his life is rather hectic at the moment.

But...

When he came home yesterday he noticed his ADSL router flashing amber so not connecting which suggests he's been switched over. Which means he now has no internet connection to be able to check his emails. And I've no way of knowing what emails he may have had previously which might have given some clues (a downside of using browser-based email, there's nothing stored on the PC)

Hopefully tomorrow I'll be able to go round and have a look at the box, etc.

So what's the procedure to get an Infinity installation going?
Is it simply a box switch out?
Is there any sort of login/password needed, if so might these have been sent by email...?
Any other things I need to be aware of?

Thanks.

Tony
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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 15-May-15 13:23:59
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It should be just a changeover of the hardware to get sync again.

I believe there is a default password for Residential customer which can be used - Business users still require a user specific ID and pwd. It is probably referenced someone in this forum.


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Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Fri 15-May-15 14:01:03
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Well I am using a HH4 for ADSLx and the username is set to [email protected] and with a blank password.

Not too sure if its different for the HH5 or whatever HH you get for Infinity.
But I have heard its just a switch over devices and it should work, so going by that the username and passwords would be the same.

Paul


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 15-May-15 14:55:40
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In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
Well I am using a HH4 for ADSLx and the username is set to [email protected] and with a blank password.

Not too sure if its different for the HH5 or whatever HH you get for Infinity.
It is the same.

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Edited by RobertoS (Fri 15-May-15 14:56:48)

Standard User PaulKirby
(experienced) Fri 15-May-15 16:17:38
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by PaulKirby:
Well I am using a HH4 for ADSLx and the username is set to [email protected] and with a blank password.

Not too sure if its different for the HH5 or whatever HH you get for Infinity.
It is the same.
Thought it might of been, just wanted to make sure.

Paul
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(deleted) Fri 15-May-15 17:00:06
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Note that sometimes it doesn't like a blank password, in which case anything will do, even a space.
Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Fri 15-May-15 18:14:10
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Replying to the last post for convenience

Thanks for all the info. I'm going round tomorrow morning so we'll see what's what. It looks straightforward - but that's all too often the case... grin

Tony
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Edited by cheshire_man (Fri 15-May-15 18:14:30)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Fri 15-May-15 18:22:06
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It should be a simple box swap out/in. The HH5 is pre-loaded with the correct username/password.
Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Fri 15-May-15 20:13:57
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Thank you smile

Tony
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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Sat 16-May-15 12:39:20
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Replying to my OP for convenience.

Turned out to be quite straightforward.

Connected the HH5 and let it get going. Cable connected a laptop initially to check. All ok, though the insistence of the BT setup process in the browser was a nuisance.

Then set up wireless from laptop, no problems. Similarly the wireless printer was simple to do.

Went into email and there was a couple of emails from BT, the first telling of his switch over date, the second saying it had been done. But as he'd been rushed into hospital he hadn't seen them and, without an internet connection, couldn't see them. Ah well.

Anyway it's now all working.

And I now have a HH2 and power supply that he didn't want. Can't think of a use for it but I'll hang on to it - just in case...

Thanks for the posts and PMs, you're a great lot smile smile

Tony
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Edited by cheshire_man (Sat 16-May-15 12:55:56)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 16-May-15 15:07:04
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Glad it was simply, sister switched to Infinity a month ago and it had to of been straightforward or else I'd have got the phone call (only one geek in family)

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Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-May-15 13:57:07
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Meant to mention that I did a tbb speed test, first using Ethernet connection, then using wireless. The D/L was ~38Mbps (ethernet) / ~22Mbps (wireless); U/L was much the same wired or wireless. So about a 40% reduction using wireless.

Not very scientific, I admit. 1 test each way, and the wireless test was 10 feet and a wall from the HH. But perhaps indicative.

Tony
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Edited by cheshire_man (Sun 17-May-15 13:57:28)

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 17-May-15 20:04:17
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I think you were probably using 2.4GHz not wireless-AC.
Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-May-15 21:22:53
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Wireless - Lacking or not requiring a wire or wires; spec. pertaining to or using radio, microwaves, etc. rather than wires to transmit signals; pertaining to radio.

There were no wires. It was wireless.

Tony
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 17-May-15 21:53:24
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That's why I was talking about wireless smile
Standard User cheshire_man
(knowledge is power) Mon 18-May-15 08:27:41
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And your point is?

Tony
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 18-May-15 08:36:09
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The reason for a 40% reduction of speed on wireless was because you were using the 2.4GHz band instead of wireless-AC on the 5GHz band.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Mon 18-May-15 13:37:37
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(only one geek in family)

Darwinian theory has it's place wink

Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 18-May-15 14:12:02
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In reply to a post by cheshire_man:
Meant to mention that I did a tbb speed test, first using Ethernet connection, then using wireless. The D/L was ~38Mbps (ethernet) / ~22Mbps (wireless); U/L was much the same wired or wireless. So about a 40% reduction using wireless.

Not very scientific, I admit. 1 test each way, and the wireless test was 10 feet and a wall from the HH. But perhaps indicative.


Im surprised the drop was that big

On 2.4GHz i get http://www.speedtest.net/result/4368252793.png

On 5GHz i get http://www.speedtest.net/result/4368258057.png

HH5 is 18 feet away in the next room with a brick wall between my PC and it.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 18-May-15 17:38:38
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It's more likely to be wireless-g on 2.4GHz rather than wireless-n.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Mon 18-May-15 19:11:34
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I am on a 40/10 EE Contract., Brightbox 2, Both 5 GHz & 2.4 GHz WiFi, simultaneous.

W 8.1 HP Tower on Ethernet
Typically 36.5 Mbps Down, 9.0 Mbps Up.


W 7 Laptop Downstairs, WiFi on 5 GHz
29.3 Mbps Down, 8.9 Mbps Up, 43 ms Ping, 4 Bars

Same Laptop on WiFi 2.4 GHz
27.8 Mbps Down, 8.2 Mbps Up, 50 ms Ping, 5 Bars

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Previous testing of the two WiFi circuits around the house, garden etc showed that on Signal Strength, the 5 GHz WiFi was generally 10 db below the 2.4 GHz, ie that the 5 GHz signal was lower/weaker, using inSSIDer to get the measurements on that same laptop.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 19-May-15 17:56:58
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You'll only get ac wireless from the HH5 if you have a compatible wireless card. BT does a USB dongle which can access this and it's very good. Check the speed from router to card and if it's in the hundreds of Mbs you have ac.
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(deleted) Tue 19-May-15 19:00:14
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Bearing in mind that it is the EE Bright Box 2 that I am using, depending on the settings in both bands, I get either 144 Mbps or 300 Mbps, checking with both inSSIDer and ACRYLIC.



Just checked on the BB2

2.4 GHz
B+G+N
WPA/WPA2 MIXED MODE

5 GHz
A+N+AC
WPA/WPA2 MIXED MODE

Edited by deleted (Tue 19-May-15 19:07:03)

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