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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Wed 01-Jul-15 20:49:34
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BT Mobile SIM only


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Has anyone used this ?

What I'm specifically interested in is, can the SIM provided be a nano sim to fit an I-phone 5 ?

Trawled their site, but could find no answer.

Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jul-15 08:10:57
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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Yes, you can get either a full size/micro sim or a nano sim. You select at order. And if you change your phone then within the online site there is an option to request a new sim of the other type.

I have been signed up for about 3 months and the service has been good - much better than the O2 service I was on.
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 09:53:58
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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whats the 4G speeds like... have you done a speed test?

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Standard User vimto_girl
(committed) Thu 02-Jul-15 10:27:21
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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I have BT Mobile and EE, 4G speeds are essentially the same.
Standard User Alnath
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 10:39:50
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
whats the 4G speeds like... have you done a speed test?


The officially the speeds are restricted to 30Mbit down and 15Mbit up but sometimes you see people saying they get more.
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jul-15 10:43:48
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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I see others have responded. I don't tend to do speed tests on mobile because so much depends on where you are - I'm sure if I was in London it would be amazing but in my little City things are probably different - especially since we don't have the same density of coverage.

However, just done a check on speedtest.net and got 33.41Mbps don and 15.96Mbps up. That's on a Google Nexus 5 with Lollipop.

General performance though is so much better than on my old so called 3G with O2.
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 10:51:54
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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OK sounds good.. I'm an EE customer and moved from O2... they are such a poor quality network...

there 4G was slow, their 3G was also slow and constantly found it to be congested or not working at all, call quality was rubbish (thats when calls worked)

I complained to O2 over and over and then opened an official complaint and after 4 months got no where... and then approached the Ombudsman Services as suggested by them and they sided with O2 and said that O2 offering me out of the contract if I paid off the phone component of the refresh contract was fair... thing is anyone can do that...

The situation made me laugh because the Ombudsman Services say they are an Independent and unbiased disputes... but they are funded by the networks and companies it represents...

So I think thats [censored]!

Anyway sorry for ranting, I'm using an iPhone 5S with EE and get 40 mb regularly, but most impressive yet has been the 70-90mbps and the upload isn't too shabby either with results always above 10mbps and up to 50mbps..

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Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 10:52:22
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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In reply to a post by Alnath:
In reply to a post by mlmclaren:
whats the 4G speeds like... have you done a speed test?


The officially the speeds are restricted to 30Mbit down and 15Mbit up but sometimes you see people saying they get more.


Restricted... REALLY??

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 02-Jul-15 10:59:26
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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Little sad face when http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest will work happily on a mobile and actually helps us to talk about mobile speeds more particularly if you can provide a postcode

Record was an overseas 4G user at around 130 Mbps if I recall, have seen phones go faster over Wi-Fi record there is a BT FTTP user with 200 Mbps on an iPhone 5

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 02-Jul-15 11:00:34
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With mobile the way things work it is easier for testers to report spike speeds rather so it may not always be a real faster than 30 Mbps.

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Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 11:20:54
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
have seen phones go faster over Wi-Fi record there is a BT FTTP user with 200 Mbps on an iPhone 5


Erm, I have a 5S and WiFi tops out at 150mbps on 5Ghz so either it was another device or bad test result.

iPad Mini 2 does 300mbps so maybe test confused an iPad for iPhone

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 02-Jul-15 11:56:36
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I was surprised but data looks good, maybe someone skewed user agent of course, but yes generally tablets seem to do better

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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jul-15 12:28:56
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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Sorry, had a 5 minute break in a meeting and speedtest.net was already on my phone so was the only thing I had time to run.

Now I have left the meeting I can only get HSDPA locally and so wouldn't give the 4G speeds. Will try and do a test later in a better location.

As I said earlier I hardly ever do speed tests on mobiles - was actually surprised at how fast it ran.
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Thu 02-Jul-15 13:11:57
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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Erm, I have a 5S and WiFi tops out at 150mbps on 5Ghz
That's because it doesn't support wireless-AC.
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 13:17:25
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Yes exactly my point... so how could someone have run 200mbps through something that "on paper" is capable of only 150mbps...

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Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Thu 02-Jul-15 13:43:51
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I think that different channel widths have different speed limits - 20MHz, 40MHz, 60MHz, and 80MHz. It all depends on the channel width in use on the router.
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 14:29:50
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Yes and based on maximum capability of the iPhone 5S which is 1x1 N 5GHz using 40Mhz width = 150Mbps or 72mbps single band 5ghz 20mhz

iPad Mini 2nd Gen uses 2x2 5Ghz 40mhz = 300mbps

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 02-Jul-15 15:55:49
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Re: BT Mobile SIM only


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But your question was what the 4G speed is. All these high ones are via FTTx routers and WiFi, which is nothing to do with your question.

The indispensable man or woman passes from the scene, and what happens next is more or less the same thing as was happening before.
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Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 02-Jul-15 18:00:56
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Thanks all


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Just the info I needed, my son's phone is currently on O2, and it sucks big time in Falmouth where he is at Uni. Cheers all.

Standard User EddyTheDog
(learned) Thu 02-Jul-15 18:36:30
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I've been using BT Mobile for a while now and so far so good. 4G speeds topped out at 30Mbps down and 15Mbps up, and i've seen 22Mbps down and around 2Mbps up on 3G. Beat vodafone where I live by a country mile lol
Standard User mlmclaren
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Jul-15 21:25:41
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
But your question was what the 4G speed is. All these high ones are via FTTx routers and WiFi, which is nothing to do with your question.


No... the topic changed when Andrew mentioned a speed test on an iPhone 5 done by someone with FTTP get 200mbps...

The discussion I was having was that the iPhone 5S isn't capable of wifi speeds above 150mbps...

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Standard User athegn
(committed) Fri 03-Jul-15 09:17:28
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In reply to a post by ian72:
I see others have responded. I don't tend to do speed tests on mobile because so much depends on where you are - I'm sure if I was in London it would be amazing but in my little City things are probably different - especially since we don't have the same density of coverage.

However, just done a check on speedtest.net and got 33.41Mbps don and 15.96Mbps up. That's on a Google Nexus 5 with Lollipop.

General performance though is so much better than on my old so called 3G with O2.


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Central London, various 20-30 down 9 - 13 up.
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