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Standard User John_Gray
(member) Fri 30-Sep-16 10:47:53
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Information about the BT Business Hub 6 (= SmartHub?)


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With their usual lack of documentary enthusiasm, BT appears not to have put much information on the web about this new router, with which we will probably be supplied when we get some new fibre lines from BT.

Please could someone who knows about these things tell me:
1) is the BT Business Hub 6 yet available to business customers?
2) is this the same as the "SmartHub"?
3) does it have any major features to distinguish it from the Home Hub 6?

And specific features which I'd like to know if it supports:
VPN and SSL VPN Tunnels/VPN termination
- for inter-site connection/meshing
- for Remote Desktop (RDP) from home into work servers and PCs
adequate number of VPN tunnels and total VPN bandwidth
"policy-based routing" (which Microsoft and Cisco call "conditional forwarding")
static routes
remote management of router (usually switched off, but should be available)
switchable wireless feature (we don't actually want wireless!)

(Possibly at this point I should say "Hi Sarah!"!)
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 30-Sep-16 19:12:22
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I'd be shocked if it did half of that, the feature set sounds more like someone who should use a standalone VDSL2 modem and a suitable business grade router.

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Standard User John_Gray
(member) Fri 30-Sep-16 19:38:07
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Sir - you are casting doubt on whether the BT Business Hub 6 is actually not a business-grade router?!

The Draytek Vigor 2860 will do all that, and it has a built-in VDSL2 modem, which has BT SIN 498 MCT Approval (which sounds really good!)...


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 30-Sep-16 19:54:04
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In reply to a post by John_Gray:
Sir - you are casting doubt on whether the BT Business Hub 6 is actually not a business-grade router?!
Isn't that precisely what you are doing by making the Opening Post?

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Standard User John_Gray
(member) Fri 30-Sep-16 20:02:28
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Well, not really.
I know almost nothing about the BT Business Hub 6, but previous iterations have perhaps made me unduly cynical.
I'm after factual experience from someone who uses one of these boxes!
Standard User ian007jen
(committed) Fri 30-Sep-16 20:58:47
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Do they exist??????
Standard User John_Gray
(member) Fri 30-Sep-16 21:32:04
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That was question 1...!
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 30-Sep-16 21:44:59
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In reply to a post by John_Gray:
Well, not really.
I know almost nothing about the BT Business Hub 6, but previous iterations have perhaps made me unduly cynical.
I'm after factual experience from someone who uses one of these boxes!
I repeat, and this post of yours makes it even clearer - you have doubts about it being "a business-grade router".

MrSaffron expressed similar doubts and made a recommendation. You dismissed his post in a somewhat surly and supercilious manner, implying he should not express such doubts. I simply pointed out that by making the OP you were expressing doubts.

If your reply to him was meant to be humorous, it's wording was somewhat unfortunate. To an outside reader it came across as simply rude.

Kindness isn't going to cure the world of all its awfulness but it's a good place to begin. Daisy Ridley.
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Standard User caffn8me
(knowledge is power) Fri 30-Sep-16 21:58:56
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Morning smile

I saw a new BT Business Broadband installation made about three weeks ago. This still came with a BT BusinessHub 5 which has a very pretty blue light on the front.

I like the blue light.

I have no idea whether a BT BusinessHub 6 is due/has already been released or whether it has any features beyond the pretty blue light.

I'll be back on site on Tuesday or Wednesday and will look then to see what expected business functionality the BusinessHub 5 fails to provide. I'm sure it's lots, but I suspect you already know that wink

Sarah

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Edited by caffn8me (Fri 30-Sep-16 22:00:19)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 30-Sep-16 22:46:56
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Fri 30-Sep-16 21:58:
Morning smile
Where are you? laugh

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Standard User John_Gray
(member) Sat 01-Oct-16 08:09:39
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Good morning!

It may be that the results from my googling for "BT Business Hub 6" have misled my minimal brain.

The BT Home Hub 6 (which appears also to be called "SmartHub" by BT) was announced, I find, at the end of June/beginning of July, and I had presumed that the Business equivalent (just a firmware improvement?) would be available by now.

If it is not yet available, then the questions in my original post are moot...

I, too, have seen the {blue} light from the BH5 - v. pretty, but less so its change to reddy/purple when the BT line is intermittently faulty!

Edited by John_Gray (Sat 01-Oct-16 08:38:48)

Standard User 23Prince
(member) Sat 01-Oct-16 10:10:11
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In reply to a post by John_Gray:
Sir - you are casting doubt on whether the BT Business Hub 6 is actually not a business-grade router?!


They put business customers on a HH3 - so it would be the first IMO that would be.

Maybe Sarah is in Aus today? tongue

The HH6 home version has many more features than you would expect for a bog standard ISP modem. I like the DNS,VPN and other tweaks (with the IPv6)

But if I was a business customer, I'd agree with you and do what Andrew suggested.

I have a new router from Talk Talk Business sat here, but I am still using my Billion as main and the "Super Router" as a backup. Because A I want a better piece of kit and 2 if there is a fault, as you know, they will ask me to connect it up.

Any other business would do the same?

Edited by 23Prince (Sat 01-Oct-16 10:15:18)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 01-Oct-16 12:44:37
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Very much casting doubt, past posts on previous devices have suggested none of the BT options match the SME stuff available elsewhere.

One option using the BT Business Hubs is to get a block of static IP addresses and use of these to feed a business grade Ethernet router, and with many of these you can have multiple WAN interfaces for fail-over, with the fail-over options varying from a simple basic broadband from another operator, USB 4G dongle to a satellite solution with a small generator to keep basic access going even during prolonged power outages when even a local exchange may finally run out of power (or be under 10 feet of water).

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Standard User John_Gray
(member) Sat 01-Oct-16 16:33:22
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23prince and Mr Saffron: thanks!
I'm rather limited about what I can do to influence matters, but with your advice I suspect that any thought of using BT Business Hub n in my context can be thoroughly scuppered.

Sarah: would you have any suggestions for a competent business router other than the Draytek 2860? The Netgear R7000 springs to mind, but I understand that in another post you were cheerfully rude about its user interface, if nothing else...
If nothing else appeals, I suspect it's Draytek time again.
Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Sat 01-Oct-16 17:38:28
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What's wrong with Draytek?
Standard User trolleybus
(experienced) Sat 01-Oct-16 20:53:44
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
What's wrong with Draytek?


Usually shipped with firmware that needs to be immediately updated.
A bewildering array of devices to choose from.
Price.
Support could be better.
Standard User John_Gray
(member) Sat 01-Oct-16 21:14:55
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In reply to a post by BatBoy:
What's wrong with Draytek?
Perhaps I should have slightly reworded it as:
"I suspect it's time for Draytek again."
?

We have a 2760 which I quite like, apart from the wobbly wireless aerials.

At least you get a decent User Guide with the 2860 - 822 pages, if I remember correctly!

Edited by John_Gray (Sat 01-Oct-16 21:15:47)

Standard User Rich44
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 04-Oct-16 20:18:31
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There's always the Fritzbox 7490 ADSL/VDSL built in lots of features & also acts as a PBX so you can run extensions, call filtering, multiple voicemail, voip & physical lines all thru your router. You can also blacklist incoming & outgoing calls.

There's also some nice mobile apps for remote access to check who's called, listen to answerphone.

Oh it also act as a NAS via USB both internally & via Internet.

Costs £200 but its been the best router I've ever bought
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