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Standard User deanobaj
(newbie) Thu 20-Aug-20 16:56:27
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BT 4G Assure - use sim with 3rd party router


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Hi,

We're looking to purchase BT Business Fibre which comes with '4G Assure' where BT's 4G data dongle will automatically provide internet access if the main line goes down for whatever reason. We would be using our own Draytek router (or something similar) rather than the supplied BT Hub.

From what I've read, the 4G Assure dongle can only be used in the BT Hub, however is there a possibility of removing the sim and using it in say a Draytek (or another router with a sim slot), or alternatively putting the sim in a universal dongle and putting that into the USB slot of the Draytek and then the sim/dongle provides internet if the main line goes down?

Hope I've made myself clear! smile

Edited by deanobaj (Thu 20-Aug-20 20:02:23)

Standard User dect
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 20-Aug-20 21:53:19
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I had a look at one of these '4G Assure' dongles about a year ago and there was no sim, it appeared to be integral to the dongle.
Standard User MHC
(sensei) Thu 20-Aug-20 23:20:41
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The certainly is a SIM, I have three of them here with BT SIMs, one probably Vodafone and two EE

The OP may well find it only works when installed in a BT hub.


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Standard User Highland76
(member) Fri 21-Aug-20 00:44:09
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Re: BT 4G Assure - use sim with 3rd party router


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I’m with BT Business and have the 4G Assure dongle. As dect says, It’s an integrated USB dongle - I’ll post some photos later on. I’ve already tried the using it on a third party router and doesn’t work. But I’m not sure why you can’t use the BT router in an emergency, considering it’s not something you’ll be doing very often (if at all).

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Standard User busterboy
(committed) Fri 21-Aug-20 05:40:00
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4G Assure I cannot help with.

BT just sent me a 4G Mini Hub and it's a sealed unit not knowing if a sim is in there or not.

4G Mini Hub

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Standard User Highland76
(member) Fri 21-Aug-20 09:05:53
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Some photos of the dongle:

https://imgur.com/a/FNleb6o

There's definitely no removeable sim.

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Standard User Taras
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 21-Aug-20 11:09:58
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https://techship.com/products/huawei-ms2372h-153-lte...

If its the same as the the ms2372h, then its a case of removing the screws..
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 21-Aug-20 11:16:01
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In reply to a post by MHC:
The certainly is a SIM, I have three of them here with BT SIMs, one probably Vodafone and two EE

The OP may well find it only works when installed in a BT hub.
Since when has BT supplied Vodafone SIMs?

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Standard User MHC
(sensei) Fri 21-Aug-20 11:51:10
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Prior to BT buying EE the "BT Mobile" operator used Vodafone and that contributed after the purchase.

If you look at older BT SIMs the MNC within the IMSI indicates Vodafone.


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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 21-Aug-20 11:56:31
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Oh, right! Thanks.

Though whether the 4G assure dongles are the same is perhaps a different question.

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