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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 30-Sep-21 02:51:48
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Slow Wireless Download Speeds on 900mb


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Hi Guys,

I'm trying to find out what the Max Wireless Download speed is from a BT HUB 2?
I have just upgraded from Fibre 300 to Fibre 900.

Wired to the Hub I get 910mb download and 110mb upload.

The problem I have is that most of the devices in my house are Apple iOS, iPad, iMac MacBook.
None of these devices have Network cards so can only be used Wireless.

When running Wireless speed tests the Download is around 900mb to the BT Hub 2 its self.
But to any of the Apple devices I get around 423mb Download. Wireless upload is fine.

I know the speed is always higher when Wired, but why is the Wireless Download speed so low?
When I am testing no other devices are connected, and the device used to test is right beside the BT Hub 2 on 5 GHz
Im also bearing in mind other networks and interference can lower your wireless speed.

BT Tech help run remote checks and say they see the slow speed and that there must be a fault on the line.
Yet when the Engineer turns up they say they can see 900mb at the socket and at the Hub 2,
But can't explain the much lower wireless download speed from the Hub 2 to the Devices.

They then leave saying to call BT and tell them the Wireless Download speed to the device is under the expected range.
The Engineer couldn't answer my Question on what rate the download wireless speed from the Hub 2 spec should be or be roughly as I know this varies.

When I call back to relay this to BT Tech help they check again and say they still see a fault on the line and want to send the Engineer out again. Even tho the last Engineer said the speed to the socket and hub 2 was great.

Does anyone have any ideas about why the wireless download speed to the device is so low when the speed to the Hub 2 and when wired to a device is full rate?

Could it be the 423mb I get is the highest wireless speed the Hub 2 can do?

The next Engineer who is coming out in the morning will no doubt say the same thing about its full speed to the Hub 2, and to a wired device and leave.

But surely if the Hub is receiving the full speed of 900mb, the wireless speed I get should be a good bit higher than what Im seeing.

Any advice or thoughts would be great.

Thanks
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 30-Sep-21 06:51:20
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Re: Slow Wireless Download Speeds on 900mb


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Because your wireless stuff cannot handle the full speed …..

Stop fretting, and get on with using your connection. Why do you need to know the throughput speed other than bragging rights. It all works, end of.

Careful, or you’ll be getting charged for those engineer visits

Standard User amiga_dude
(member) Thu 30-Sep-21 08:05:11
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Re: Slow Wireless Download Speeds on 900mb


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The best WiFi you can get is WiFi 6 (using old WiFi naming convention WiFi AX)

Now there are few issues. Walls are big issue. Distance is an issue. Of couse both device have to be WiFi 6 to get max speeds.

YouTube:Chris Majestic-Best Wifi Router - Netgear Orbi Wifi 6, Eero Pro 6, Asus Zenwifi AX

YouTube:Linus Tech Tips-GB Just how FAST is WiFi 6?


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Standard User Pheasant
(knowledge is power) Thu 30-Sep-21 09:28:52
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Re: Slow Wireless Download Speeds on 900mb


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Doesn’t appear to be a ‘fault’ per se, just the natural limits of your BT Hub and your own associated gear. So unlikely that any BT engineers despatched will be able to improve matters.

The highest consistent speeds I’ve seen with my 802.11ac (same wireless generation as your BT hub and I suspect much of your Apple gear unless you bought it all in the last 6-12 months) based access point are high 600’s - but there is more than one AP and they are wired back to my main network.

You may wish to look at another replacement access point to improve performance. Moving to 802.11ax (WiFi 6) would be the next step, but it’s still early days for vendor support. Much will depend on what exactly your Apple devices are capable of and the home environment - walls etc. are a major stumbling block especially when you are trying to consistently get very high wireless speeds.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 30-Sep-21 11:54:41
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Re: Slow Wireless Download Speeds on 900mb


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In reply to a post by abductedcraig:
The problem I have is that most of the devices in my house are Apple iOS, iPad, iMac MacBook.
None of these devices have Network cards so can only be used Wireless.


If your MacBook has a USB-C port you could use one of these, and if your iPad has USB-C then similar adaptors can work.

If you can post the model/age of your MacBook and iPad then we can advise if there is anything you can do, but as Pheasant says, it depends on the age of the hardware.

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 30-Sep-21 12:14:07
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Its not for bragging rights.

BT are the ones saying there is a fault and they need to send someone out, and its the Engineers that are saying there is no fault.

So no charge can be made to me.

The 2nd Engineer didn't come out this morning, but sent a text saying nothing more could be done.
No doubt BT will say they can still see a fault on the line.

Im asking about the Hubs Wireless speed as I don't know if I should keep the 900 Fibre or go back to the 300 Fibre I upgraded from.

I just wanted to ask if the Wireless speed from Hub to Device Im seeing was normal or not, before deciding.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 30-Sep-21 12:18:37
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Im not sure what WiFi type my Apple devices have, but all of the devices are the latest ones out if that helps.
I will have a look at the Videos you link to, Thanks
Standard User Zarjaz
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 30-Sep-21 12:26:54
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You might ask them what the ‘fault’ is they can ‘see’ ?

Standard User deleted
(deleted) Thu 30-Sep-21 12:28:39
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Ok so the Hubs Wireless is flat out so to speak.
That would explain the speeds Im seeing then.

The Apple Devices are all the latest versions, all fully updated.

Its looking like while my devices can't be wired, there's not much else to be done.

When using Wireless does this slower download speed get shared between devices, or is this speed limitation to each Device?
Standard User omnius
(member) Thu 30-Sep-21 12:34:16
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Looking at apples own specs the macbook has a 3x3 array and the iphone is STILL only running a 2x2 array, general consensus on the apple forums is they can't do 1gig over wifi and the only benefit they get from wifi 6 (when paired with a wifi6 router which the smarthub 2 you have isn't) is the extra battery life and channel support.

Once again Zarjaz hit the nail square on the head

Just because i try to help doesnt mean i know what im on about lol
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