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Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-11 09:43:57
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Distance from the cabinet before speed drops?


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I'm interested in ordering infinity due to me only getting around 3mbps, been waiting for it for ages. I'm about 200m or so crow view and around 400m road distance from the cabinet. According to BT i can only get 10mbps down whereas my neighbors about 30m away from me can get 30mbps down. Is this just BT's estimator showing false speed or is it really losing 20mbps in the 30m distance between my neighbors and I.

Any help would be appreciated smile

Ciaran.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 21-Apr-11 09:47:12
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Look for profile 8c on http://www.buckconsult.co.uk/fttx/BT8cProfilesVDSL2.jpg

200m ~ 650 feet

Yes VDSL2 can really go as fast as that chart suggests, but Openreach is leaving room for crosstalk and will see how fast they can go in the future

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Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-11 09:51:52
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Re: Distance from the cabinet before speed drops?


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I don't understand that graph, i'm quite noobish at this.
Does this mean i will get 10mbps or i will get 20-30's?

Thanks


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 21-Apr-11 10:11:23
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It says that at 200m 90Mbps is a possible sync for VDSL2, dropping below the 40Meg mark at around 4500 feet (1km)

Hence why most people are seeing really good syncs on the FTTC product (they currently cap sync at 40Meg)

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Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-11 10:14:54
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Thanks for your help, gona go order it today! Can't wait lol
Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Thu 21-Apr-11 17:44:33
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Just called them and they are offering me some under 15mb service -_- Apparently im on a different cabinet than my neighbor even though it's the exact same housing estate etc.
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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Thu 21-Apr-11 19:30:19
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'Course that's still faster than you currently get, and of course, the checker is pants. Read the threads in the fibre section, quite a few have ordered sub fifteen, and got lots more.

Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Fri 22-Apr-11 02:55:42
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I most likely have already read them, i swear i think i read nearly every BT Infinity thread. LOL
+ Im pretty sure it is wrong, cabinets so close to me, all the houses surrounding me are connected to it and it's the only one that servers my housing estate. If i can only get the 10 it's still a nice boost.

Do you happen to know what will happen if the engineer comes out and is able to give me the infinity broadband? It says in my order, "option 3 with fibre."
Will it make a difference do you know?

+ They just disabled my BB talk. Apparently it's not compatible with the home hub 3, sounds like [censored]. Any tricks to getting it to work?

ty
ciaran
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Apr-11 11:00:41
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I guess you have ordered then, they are right about BB talk being cancelled as a product, mine went about 20 minutes after the order was placed. If you've ordered sub 15, it's just wait and see time, there's no tricks, just hang over the engineers shoulder and check the stats on their tester.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 22-Apr-11 20:58:45
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
...just hang over the engineers shoulder and check the stats on their tester.
You may wash under your armpits or use a deodorant. Can you vouch for all OR engineers, especially during a late afternoon appointment on a hot day?

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Apr-11 21:01:35
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Good point, there's a guy I know, he'll clear a team brief in the Winter months ! Nice.

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 23-Apr-11 14:20:36
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Engineer has no say over what BT Retail product you are on, since he has no control over them. He is just installing what he/she has been told to install.

The with fibre under 15Meg is only limited on the upstream to 2Meg.

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Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Sat 23-Apr-11 18:44:25
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I understand, still annoys me how arrogant their staff are on the phone -_-
If my line is indeed capable of having a higher download and upload speed, will i be able to make use of it or will i be restricted do you know?

Ciaran
Standard User 5km
(knowledge is power) Mon 25-Apr-11 12:12:47
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1 cm ... sorry couldn't resist and it's actually not far from the truth "VDSL2 deteriorates quickly from a theoretical maximum of 250 Mbit/s at source" The line profile BT use is actually 'only' capable of ~60Mbps at source. Currently BT cap this to 40Mbps.

The BT estimator is just that and actual speed may be better or worse.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 28-Apr-11 15:42:59
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You will be able to use whatever the downstream connects at, just the product is limited to 2Meg on the upstream

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Standard User RandomHappyGuy
(newbie) Sun 08-May-11 13:05:39
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Was installed Friday, was getting 37ish down and the 1.65 up (working on getting them to remove the cap).
Although now, my download profile has went down to 31 and my speed are 29-31ish.. =/

I've read that a call to them to increase the profile should fix it, if so do you know the best number for me to call? smile
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