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Standard User BuckleZ
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 02-Feb-12 09:59:46
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
My exchange (NILDW) has had FTTC for quite some time now... and all the fibre has been routed through (NILDM) but my exchange has a date of 31st March for 21CN (ADSL2+). So it seems its still possible for BT to go back and enable areas already with FTTC

Edited by BuckleZ (Thu 02-Feb-12 10:00:12)

Standard User flippery
(newbie) Thu 02-Feb-12 10:27:02
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
I am on bredon Exchange, ADSL2 is quoted for second half 2012. Would this assist with low speeds being obtained by many users at Peak Evening Congestion.
Standard User ccxo
(member) Thu 02-Feb-12 15:57:52
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: flippery] [link to this post]
 
WBC will help to remove the evening congestion on the exchange, as there will be more backhaul available.

BT will continue to upgrade its exchanges to 21CN target is about 90% i believe now, so still a while to go till they hit that amount, possibly will go further as well.

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Standard User Seansmit17
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 03-Feb-12 01:44:46
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


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Think i dont get is, im seeing exchanges with 1,300 ish people getting 21CN dates and ones with 1,700 ish not getting 21cn dates...

What teh fudge!?

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Standard User WWWombat
(experienced) Fri 03-Feb-12 02:33:16
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: ccxo] [link to this post]
 
After looking at Ofcom's results - which show FTTC is considerably better at meeting speed promises than ADSL2+ - perhaps BT should stop the 21CN ADSL2+ rollout entirely, and just go with FTTC?

Then they'd have stopped both voice & data rollouts...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 03-Feb-12 09:15:33
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: WWWombat] [link to this post]
 
System X wont work with FVA-FTTP and the possible FTTC variant in the future, so will need replacing.

Also WBC provides the wholesale backhaul for the non-LLU providers, so that pays for some roll-out.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 03-Feb-12 09:42:28
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: ccxo] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by ccxo:
WBC will help to remove the evening congestion on the exchange, as there will be more backhaul available.
But evening congestion is more likely to be at the ISP end than at the exchange.

Though of course once on WBC the user would be going through different handover equipment at the ISP end, which could be the bottleneck at the moment. (That's if he is either still on IPStream, or is on IPSC and the MSIL is still separate from the WBC/WBMC one as in the early days).

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Standard User warweezil
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 04-Feb-12 17:03:23
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


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Tenby - half the size of mine got WBC last month, Milford Haven, Haverfordwest, and Saundersfoot all have dates set. Pembroke - largest exchange in the county - no date set, you tell me how this works! Its a joke when you consider that fibre with the same data allowance would only cost me a fiver more. It seems time for a proper price cut for adsl max to reflect the lower quality of service (and investment) we get on our exchange, a cut that the ISPs would have to pass on to the long suffering end users on these neglected exchanges.

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VP status Yellow - About time BTw rewarded us for our over priced 8 meg crawl with some investment!

Edited by warweezil (Sat 04-Feb-12 17:27:19)

Standard User flippery
(newbie) Sun 05-Feb-12 10:46:44
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by ccxo:
WBC will help to remove the evening congestion on the exchange, as there will be more backhaul available.
But evening congestion is more likely to be at the ISP end than at the exchange.

Bredon only has ADSL Max.
I accept the point that it could be my ISP. However, as BT users get the same problem, leads me to believe it is more likely to be capacity. Lack of investment on market 1 exchanges by BT has not allowed the infrastructure to cope with increased demand for Video and gaming during peak times. Fibre is the growth investment return product for BT, never to be seen here though IMO.

During day I get 4-5 mb download. In the evening 0.5 to 2mb.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 05-Feb-12 12:37:42
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Re: ADSL2+ to be installed in ALL exchanges??


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What's the date today? tongue
Results: Bredon
Virtual paths: Red


BT is reporting that some of the virtual paths at this exchange are not operating within BT Wholesale's planning guidance, although they are still operating within the product specification.

At busy times, your ADSL connection may operate at a reduced speed, although not all customers on your exchange may be affected. You should only contact support if there is no current ETA date set.

The ETA fix time is: 20 Jan 12

Record last updated: 15 Jan 12


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