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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Mar-13 10:59:54
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Re: Will switching ISP get me a better sync?


[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
Remind me, as CBA to read the whole thread, what router is he using ? SNR values reversed ?

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Mar-13 11:42:30
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Re: Will switching ISP get me a better sync?


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would you say I would be able to get away with having interleaving switched off
You won't have the choice; DLM will decide based on stability of line.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Mar-13 11:43:12
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Neither can I, but 6dB figure is the one thats has been steadily lowered by the DLM as expected. It's either Netgear or Speedtouch that report it that way round. Always very confusing frown.

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Mar-13 11:46:00
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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Mar-13 11:51:18
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[re: Zarjaz] [link to this post]
 
TG582n. Not as far as we know. There has been protracted discussion on the extremely low Down NM for such a short line.

EDIT: NMs and their directions have been confirmed by diff router a BBC Home Hub.

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Edited by XRaySpeX (Sun 17-Mar-13 11:55:16)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Mar-13 12:16:57
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The attenuation may rise to around 23dB on ADSL2+,
How do you work that out? 9 dB shirley? You looking at wrong stat?
Ohhhhhhhh!

How about the upstream noise margin? Even then I meant 26dB!

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Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Mar-13 12:42:57
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Isn't a higher sync speed than 7616Kbps possible with interleaving?

I'm sure I got 8064Kbps with interleaving applied (35dB attenuation, 9dB SNRM, 7000Kbps IP Profile) when I was on an ADSL MAX a couple of years ago.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 17-Mar-13 13:12:09
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Sometimes. It seems to be possible with some user-router & DSLAM combinations. TI AR7s seem to manage it quite often.

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Standard User 4M2
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Mar-13 13:29:04
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Sometimes. It seems to be possible with some user-router & DSLAM combinations. TI AR7s seem to manage it quite often.


Does interleaving depth come into the equation?

I don't much about that nor do I have a router that reports it frown
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 17-Mar-13 16:25:08
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Isn't a higher sync speed than 7616Kbps possible with interleaving?


yes, provided both ends support S=1/2 or something with a similar name smile

8128 sync interleaved here at >35 dB signal attenuation

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