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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Fri 08-Mar-13 08:50:21
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Re: Will switching ISP get me a better sync?


[re: matthewcl375] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by matthewcl375:
On second thoughts, I probably won't have to establish a PPPOA session to get my line stats would i?


correct, though you can use a BT test login if it's a Wholesale provided service.

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Standard User matthewcl375
(member) Fri 08-Mar-13 14:46:22
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Ok I just did the test, which involved plugging in the Home Hub using the supplied power cable and then connecting it to the filter via a new ADSL cable which we got from Tesco (not the same one used on the TG582n). Stats are below (entered manually by me from a screenshot):

Bandwidth: 448Kbps up, 5,664Kbps down
Output Power: 11.5db up, 9.5db down
Line Attenuation: 5.0db up, 7.0db down
SN Margin: 22.0db up, 9.5db down


(When I did this test it was raining outside, however now I have reconnected my normal router, I am getting 6,880Kbps down, so I don't think weather could have caused the low sync)

Most likely the low sync was caused by this Home Hub being an old router, you think?

Edited by matthewcl375 (Fri 08-Mar-13 14:46:56)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Mar-13 14:54:34
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Please now post TG582n's corresponding stats so we can compare.

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Standard User matthewcl375
(member) Fri 08-Mar-13 15:22:43
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Stats from TG582n

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 448 / 6.880
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 6,75 / 60,82
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11,9 / 13,8
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 6,0 / 6,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 23,0 / 9,1

My IP Profile has just dropped to 4.5Mbps even though I had the Home Hub on for less than 75 minutes frown

Where does this leave things?

Edited by matthewcl375 (Fri 08-Mar-13 17:22:04)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Mar-13 18:19:15
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Well, that exonerates the router; we can now trust its readings.

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Standard User matthewcl375
(member) Fri 08-Mar-13 18:43:10
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[re: XRaySpeX] [link to this post]
 
Now back to the seemingly age old question of what on earth is causing the underperformance crazy

I had a wild idea today: I could plug our old extension back in, then move the router upstairs and plug it in up there, this would help to eliminate any noise issues as it would be in a different room altogether, with nothing else plugged in to the mains in that room.

@XRaySpeX Earlier in the thread you said I am already on WBC, how did you work that out?

Edited by matthewcl375 (Fri 08-Mar-13 18:48:21)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 08-Mar-13 18:53:41
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Your exchange is WBC enabled, isn't it?

So they will have 21CN kit in there, not 20CN.

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Standard User matthewcl375
(member) Fri 08-Mar-13 23:25:55
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Ah, I was under the impression that 20CN kit was still used to provide 20CN services, also someone on Kitz said that I am on a DSLAM

Edited by matthewcl375 (Fri 08-Mar-13 23:29:47)

Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 08-Mar-13 23:37:20
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A MSAN is just a DSLAM that is DSL and voice services.

You may be on 20CN hardware, or you may be on 21CN hardware but using an IPStream Max ADSL like profile

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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 09-Mar-13 00:11:38
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Why bother wasting money and space keeping 2 varieties of kit when you can cover both with just the modern kit and just throwing a few software switches?

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