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Standard User rscott
(member) Wed 05-Mar-14 10:25:55
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21CN Rollout Details


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My local exchange (EAWIX) has still not been upgraded to 21CN (and isn't in the current BDUK plans for Essex either).

Is there any way of finding out if/when any upgrades are planned? There's a new wireless network being rolled out across the district and a distinct possibility that I might be able to switch to that later this year. They're offering incentives for early adopters if I sign up within the next couple of months.
If the exchange goes 21CN, I should get a reasonable increase in speed so probably won't go wireless, but would like to know BT's plans before committing.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Mar-14 10:43:56
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Re: 21CN Rollout Details


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What are your current ADSL stats

http://www.coolwebhome.co.uk/calc will estimate your ADSL2+ (21CN) speeds for you.

Council plans are always in flux so you won't really know until they have decided to deploy for sure in the area.

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Standard User rscott
(member) Wed 05-Mar-14 10:53:23
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Re: 21CN Rollout Details


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Thanks - the site estimates I should get near enough a doubling of speed from ~5 to about 11Mbit/s . So a useful increase, should the exchange ever get updated.

I've had confirmation from the council that the exchange definitely isn't in any of the plans for the current phase of 'Superfast Essex'. That unfortunately seems to focus on the towns and miss most of the rural areas. They've suggested it may be included in the second phase using the £10.72 million they've just been allocated, but those plans won't be confirmed until the first phase is well underway.


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 05-Mar-14 15:13:24
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http://www.thinkbroadband.com/news/5994-essex-signs-...

They signed and stated fibre based broadband to 87% in August 2013, so planning will be around that. The later 95% superfast figure depends on what the council wants to do with the extra money from Westminster and can they afford their own additional money.

Best chance of ADSL2+ will be if TalkTalk unbundle the exchange. Certainly ADSL2+ will not be part of the council plans.

Given the size of Wix (lived in Frinton and used the road to get to Suffolk a lot) it is fairly earily in that final 13% and the wireless is best bet of better speeds in the next couple of years.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User rscott
(member) Wed 05-Mar-14 15:58:57
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They used to have more detailed estimates for the rollout by district on www.superfastessex.org but these seem to have gone away. They were suggesting about 80% coverage for Tendring by the end of the first phase - not great but better than the 60% or so proposed for the Maldon area.

Hopefully TalkTalk will unbundle soon - perhaps the lack of inclusion in BDUK might make the exchange more appealing.
Standard User jelv
(knowledge is power) Thu 06-Mar-14 09:11:49
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I would have thought the roll out of wireless would make it less attractive to TalkTalk.

jelv

Plusnet user since November 2001 - not sure for how much longer
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Thu 06-Mar-14 09:26:56
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Presume it is these wireless people

http://www.countybroadband.co.uk/get-broadband/cover...

http://www.countybroadband.co.uk/community/tendring-...

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Standard User rscott
(member) Thu 06-Mar-14 09:36:12
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No - they weren't interested in covering Wix & Bradfield when approached.

It's these - http://www.mlltelecom.com/news/ . They're planning on putting a mast up on a new industrial development at Horsley Cross (next to the existing 500' tall radio mast)
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(staff) Thu 06-Mar-14 11:43:12
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That looks a lot more Wi-Fi than the fixed wireless that county broadband do.

Clacton, Frinton, Walton already have fairly good FTTC coverage and the caravan parks will benefit but WiFi hot spots usually have short reach, hence probably no interest in your area as they need a dense cluster to make it work.

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Standard User rscott
(member) Thu 06-Mar-14 21:18:55
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The residential service will be provided by 'Our Broadband' - http://www.ourbroadband.co.uk/ - apparently a joint venture between MLL Telecom and Eurona.

Speeds and costs are pretty similar to County Broadband, I think.
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(staff) Fri 07-Mar-14 08:26:57
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The site says northern and Tendring is not unless you live in Kent!

One quibble talks of offer price but no mention of non offer price.

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Standard User rscott
(member) Fri 07-Mar-14 08:57:56
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They haven't started delivering residential services in Tendring yet. For clarity, this is the entirety of the information I received from Tendering District Council.

At the moment, Bradfield is not included in the plans for the Essex BDUK programme. However, last week Government allocated another £10.72m to Essex with an aspiration of reaching 95% of properties with fibre. A plan for this money has not yet been agreed, but I would expect that it will be used in the districts, like Tendring, that have a large rural population.

 

The MLL programme is moving ahead and they have suggested that they should be able to deliver a residential service by this summer. They are just waiting for their backhaul to be connected to Telecom House before they can proceed. They will have a 100mb backhaul in the first instance, with an opportunity to increase this depending on take up, and are working on a 20:1contention ratio.

 

Their residential packages seem sensibly priced (£15-35/month) and full details are available on their website: www.ourbroadband.co.uk, whilst commercial packages are from £75-125/month for up to 40mb synchronous services.

 

I am waiting to get details from Micrologic about their packages now that the mast at Horsley Cross has been approved, as they suggest that they can deliver services up to  2gb across the entire District.

 

Once ECC make any further announcements about how the additional funding will be allocated, I will let you know. Likewise, once I get specific details on the packages and timescales for the Horsley Cross broadband, I will send this though.
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(staff) Fri 07-Mar-14 10:24:56
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Once it goes live give us a shout

Interesting to find two fixed wireless almost competing and prospect of BDUK funding, could be EU State Aid concerns for the BDUK project if the wireless can deliver a superfast service

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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