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Standard User gh22
(newbie) Thu 22-May-14 15:00:29
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BT Homes Passed With ADSL, ADSL2+, FTTC and FTTP


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Has anyone got any insight on this one?

I assume that there are around 29 Million Premesis in the UK

BT has around 100,000 homes(0.4%) passed with FTTP (Not including FTTod)
19 Million Homes passed with FTTC (66%)

Does that leave the rest (33%) with ADSL2+ as best technology passed or are some people still on regular ADSL?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 22-May-14 16:20:53
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In reply to a post by gh22:
... or are some people still on regular ADSL?
Yes. Seen a few in these forums in the last couple of weeks.

Though one of them I think had just had TalkTalk LLU arrive at the exchange.

There are also quite a few exchanges where the lines can get FTTC, but not ADSL2+. (FTTC supplied from a nearby one).

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Edited by RobertoS (Thu 22-May-14 16:22:34)

Standard User kitcat
(committed) Thu 22-May-14 19:40:54
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GH22

Some of them have Virgin CATV this can be a significant number in cities where they would otherwise be on EO pairs with only ADSL2+, this could be as high as 10%.

There are aslo a number in rural areas where the best they can have is ADSL, ( No LLU no WBC) this applies to about 2000 exchanges but only about 5% of the premises.

This would leave about 18% with ADSL2+ as the best they could get.


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Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 23-May-14 00:19:08
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The OP Q was about BT homes passed not Virgin.

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC
Standard User godsell4
(learned) Fri 23-May-14 07:58:27
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In reply to a post by gh22:
... or are some people still on regular ADSL?


It is likely that many or most Market1 exchanges are not ADSL2+/21CN enabled.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 23-May-14 10:20:41
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TalkTalk has ADSL2+ available to 96% of UK homes. It is the largest ADSL2+ network in the UK.

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Standard User HangTime
(committed) Fri 06-Jun-14 10:27:46
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I'm still on ADSL Max. No ADSL2+, FTTC, LLU, Cable or 4G here.

Pretty annoying, they have enabled Fibre at the exchange but not done my cabinet and last time I checked, no plans to upgrade to 21CN i.e. ADSL2+.

You might imagine I would be in some remote village farm or whatever, but I actually live on a modern estate surrounded by properties on all sides. Demand would be through the roof for any provider that offered something better than standard ADSL.
Standard User epyon
(experienced) Fri 13-Jun-14 03:25:32
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FTTC will be getting fed from another exchange more than likely.

Standard User jroadley
(newbie) Fri 13-Jun-14 10:19:30
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Plenty of premises in west Norfolk still on a up-to 8mb service and according to the BBFN website no sign of fibre!
Standard User Storm_Force
(learned) Mon 23-Jun-14 21:44:17
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Yep my exchange has up to 8mb and also FTTC/FTTP but nothing else eg adsl2 or any unbundling which ain't much help on EO line like myself frown
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 23-Jun-14 23:05:45
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That's sick-making for anyone like you.

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Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User godsell4
(learned) Mon 30-Jun-14 12:38:24
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@storm_force have yo contacted your local council running BDUK funded work to see what they are planning? You maybe lucky and be included in updates under that work.

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Standard User B31
(newbie) Mon 30-Jun-14 17:43:23
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In reply to a post by epyon:
FTTC will be getting fed from another exchange more than likely.


How does that affect your phone line?

Do you end up with a new phone number?

And do you still need a phone service with FTTC/FTTP?!



BT ADSL customer getting 1.9 Mbps on a new road / new build development
CAB not FTTC enabled, not part of the 66% commercial plan. Not rural - no BDUK funding
No virgin media (available on the next road)
Standard User zom22
(member) Mon 30-Jun-14 17:58:43
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has no effect whatsoever.
So it will be totally invisible to the customer how their BB actually comes to the distribution cabinet - whether that is fibre from the local exchange or fibre from another adjacent head end exchange.

Yes you have to have a phone service and be paying line rental to get a FTTC service.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 30-Jun-14 18:11:46
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And to get FTTP smile. Whether the phone is via copper or fibre is a different question, it's still needed.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User B31
(newbie) Mon 30-Jun-14 18:13:37
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I guess its just a pairing of a fibre cabinet and a normal cabinet, therefore doesn't have to come from the same place. Didn't really think about that!



BT ADSL customer getting 1.9 Mbps on a new road / new build development
CAB not FTTC enabled, not part of the 66% commercial plan. Not rural - no BDUK funding
No virgin media (available on the next road)
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 30-Jun-14 18:15:58
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I've got a bit of a description of how it works on this page.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User gah789
(regular) Mon 30-Jun-14 21:13:22
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Actually, if you want to be pedantic - or are one of those affected - there are about 70 exchanges serving about 5,000 premises that don't have either ADSL 2+ or ADSL but a variant called Exchange Activate with a maximum speed of 512 kps. Further there are about 20 exchanges (in the Western Isles) with no ADSL of any kind.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 30-Jun-14 22:24:24
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The 20 in western isles had fixed wireless, been ages since stumbling into an exchange activate line

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Standard User sthen
(committed) Tue 01-Jul-14 09:04:58
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You don't need a phone service to get FTTP, I know of an active FTTP line that doesn't have associated phone service. Some ISPs may need it though.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 01-Jul-14 19:24:01
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There may be no phone using it, but the line rental will be being charged.

That's assuming you are taking about the retail (residential and business) Openreach FTTC/FTTP products.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User sthen
(committed) Tue 01-Jul-14 21:12:33
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Talking about Openreach residential FTTP provided by AAISP - maybe it's charged to the ISP but in this case the user is not paying any line rental.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Tue 01-Jul-14 21:54:22
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http://aa.net.uk/broadband-phoneline.html


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