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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 14-May-18 13:20:06
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BT change their 'speedtest' and 'dslchecker' websites...


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I notice BT have changed their 'speedtest/IP profile' and 'availability' websites:

http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com and http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/

Unfortunately the biggest change seems the introduction of some purple text!
I was hoping BT would revamp the IP Profile checker so that it runs without FLASH as this is dying out - but sadly it still uses it.

Not the best website revamp I've come across wink

Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Sun 19-Aug-18 17:20:54
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I'm not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere and I've missed it?
I originally posted here as the 'BT speedtest' seems to be a BTW thing...

Anyway - since my last post it looks as if BT no longer require users to have FLASH installed to use their speedtest to see their IP Profile.

It seems to be just as temperamental but that's a BT thing rather than Adobe FLASH!

EDIT:
BT's speedtest FAQ page still mentions FLASH *is* required...!
http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com/PerformanceTest...

Edited by b4dger (Sun 19-Aug-18 17:41:17)

Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Sat 20-Oct-18 17:40:53
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Just tried to check my IP Profile as I've come home and found we've had a power cut earlier in the day.
Now I'm seeing:

"We have detected that you do not have Flash installed on your device.In order to complete this test Flash must be installed and enabled.Please click the link above in order to install the latest Flash player."

So it looks like BT may have reversed their non-FLASH code?!



THANKS FOR ALL THE INTEREST TBB PEOPLE - tongue


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Standard User Turnipatour
(regular) Sun 14-Apr-19 09:29:55
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I've always used https://www.btwholesale.com/adslchecker/ which as of today no longer exists (but was identical to http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/).

Googled for any equivalent and found http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/totl.input

which gives more information than the previous including some DLM details. Is this new?

Edited by Turnipatour (Sun 14-Apr-19 09:30:40)

Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sun 14-Apr-19 10:06:38
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The full link to the old adsl version http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/adslchecker.welcome still works but does indeed redirect to the also old version of the yucky-looking one which is the second link in the OP.

The totl.input one you have found requires a BT login of some kind.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 14-Apr-19 10:16:44)

Standard User Turnipatour
(regular) Sun 14-Apr-19 10:25:11
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The totl.input one you have found requires a BT login of some kind.


Indeed it does now... except when I clicked through from Google it took me in without asking for a login, and I can still use that URL to access in this browser session. If I open the link in an Incognito session then it's asking for a login which I certainly don't have - which begs the question how has it logged me in on the first session? Weird!
Standard User TygerTyger2010
(regular) Sun 14-Apr-19 16:04:11
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Standard User Turnipatour
(regular) Sun 14-Apr-19 16:17:19
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Certainly does, I was just checking again and if you look at the URL from Google it's got login details stored in it, hmmm....
Standard User warweezil
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 14-Apr-19 16:57:39
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Thanks for the link, I checked out the two lines we have in different areas on the same exchange, while much of the detail given I am used to from the other DSL checkers BT have made available, I did notice a few different parameters as below sampled from the checks I ran on both lines.

VDSL FTTC Loss Source HV
VDSL FTTC DP Source Actual
MTBE Downstream: 4400
MTBE Upstream: 400
H24Retrains: 2


VDSL FTTC Loss Source HVD
VDSL FTTC DP Source Actual
MTBE Upstream: 264
H24Retrains: 2


Can anyone translate DP souce, Loss source and the MTBE data along with H24 retrains?

Any ISP that thinks that selling my click traffic is acceptable is MisinPHORMed
VIVACITI 80/20 FTTC
SWPM PCP29 - Still suffering Random drops and intermittent high error counts

BQM - looking better than it has been....

Edited by warweezil (Sun 14-Apr-19 17:00:35)

Standard User Turnipatour
(regular) Sun 14-Apr-19 17:16:43
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I found https://community.plus.net/t5/Library/Broadband-Faul...

From that I get MTBE is mean time between errors (seconds per day) so the higher the better, maximum 86400 indicating no errors.

H24Retrains looks to be resyncs in the past day although I suspect 1 means no resyncs, rather than 0 based on the two lines I checked that both showed 1 for that.

Incidentally both those lines had only "MTBE Upstream" whereas one of your lines also shows "MTBE Downstream". Not sure why this would be missing from some lines, both the numbers I checked are connected to a Huawei Cab. They also show "VDSL FTTC Loss Source HV" so that doesn't seem to correspond to the lack of "MTBE Downstream".
Standard User warweezil
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 14-Apr-19 17:38:50
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Thanks. I know the first line is definitely on a Huawei cab (SWPM Cab29) , I havent yet checked the other one on SWPM Cab 3.

My current line on cab29 has given issues over the last 20 years, all the way back to dial up when I got a gain boost done to stabilise the connection. Im hoping the new location on cab3 will prove more reliable.

Any ISP that thinks that selling my click traffic is acceptable is MisinPHORMed
VIVACITI 80/20 FTTC
SWPM PCP29 - Still suffering Random drops and intermittent high error counts

BQM - looking better than it has been....
Standard User sheephouse
(member) Mon 15-Apr-19 11:22:16
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Very interesting - more info than the public site.

Two questions for you knowledgeable people, firstly what is MALR (I'd guess something like max achievable line rate?), secondly is it common to have an actual rate that is above the maximum line range rate (line rate max is 12.5, MALR is 15.1, current sync is 14.4)?


ADSL Products RAG Service Availability Reason Code Capacity Date Downstream Line Rate(Mbps) Upstream Line Rate(Mbps) Line Range in Mbps Left In Jumper
WBC Green Enabled A - Up to 8 - 5.5 - 12.5 -
WBC(Annex-M) Green Enabled A - Up to 8 Up to 1 5.5 - 12.5 -
WBC Fixed Rate Green Enabled A - Up to 2 - - -
WBC Rate Adaptive Green Enabled A - Up to 2 - - -
Max Green Enabled A - Up to 8 - 7 - 8 -
Fixed Rate Green Enabled A - Up to 2 - - -
Rate Adaptive Green Enabled A - Up to 2 - - -
Other Offerings RAG Service Availability
ADSL Multicast - Enabled - - - - - -
Observed Speeds ADSL
Downstream Observed Sync Speed (Mbps) 14.51
Upstream Observed Sync Speed (Mbps) 1.11
Downstream Observed MALR 15.1Mbit/s
Upstream Observed MALR 1.35Mbit/s
Last Observed Date 2018-11-10
Service Information
Service Provider: WBMC PSN WBC
CP Name:  BT WHOLESALE
CP Contact:  0800671045
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Standard User Rushmere2012
(newbie) Mon 15-Apr-19 12:46:42
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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-19 14:35:29
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Good to see BT are s l o w l e y looking at their website tools.
I notice http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com/ has gone back to a non-FLASH version which is good to see.

Standard User GonePostal
(member) Mon 15-Apr-19 17:45:32
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In reply to a post by b4dger:
Good to see BT are s l o w l e y looking at their website tools.
I notice http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com/ has gone back to a non-FLASH version which is good to see.


Hasn't made the results any more accurate.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-19 18:22:19
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In reply to a post by GonePostal:
In reply to a post by b4dger:
Good to see BT are s l o w l e y looking at their website tools.
I notice http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com/ has gone back to a non-FLASH version which is good to see.


Hasn't made the results any more accurate.
True, and it still wont display the IP profile either, another defunct part of BT, time they removed their IP profiles IMO
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-19 18:26:52
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Quicker way to get IP Profile here: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=...
Standard User adslmax
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-19 18:36:57
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In reply to a post by TygerTyger2010:
This URL, found through Google, seems to work at the moment: http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/totl.login?identif...


You have to be careful as BT might taken action against you.

WARNING: You have accessed a system managed by BT. You are required to have authorisation from BT before you proceed and you are strictly limited to the use set out within that authorisation which is set out in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide titled ADSL checker service provider usage document. Unauthorised access to or misuse of this system is prohibited and constitutes an offence under the Computer Misuse Act 1990. If you disclose any information obtained through this system without authority BT may take legal action against you. Only proceed if you are authorised to.
The information contained in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide includes instructions which are contractual instructions pursuant to paragraph 3.2 (b) of the Conditions of BT Datastream and BT IPstream Service as applicable.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-19 19:01:21
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
Quicker way to get IP Profile here: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=...
That doesn't work either returns some scripted error everytime
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 15-Apr-19 19:01:28
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... and it still wont display the IP profile either, another defunct part of BT, time they removed their IP profiles IMO
I presume it still shows it for BT Wholesale lines? I forget what they call it, "Further diagnostics" or something on the initial results page.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Three 4G, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up. BQM
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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 15-Apr-19 19:02:44
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In reply to a post by tommy45:
In reply to a post by adslmax:
Quicker way to get IP Profile here: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=...
That doesn't work either returns some scripted error everytime
What service and ISP are you with now tommy?

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Three 4G, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up. BQM
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If you never think of anything off the wall, you'll never think of anything original.
Standard User tommy45
(knowledge is power) Mon 15-Apr-19 19:53:48
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by tommy45:
In reply to a post by adslmax:
Quicker way to get IP Profile here: https://windows.mouselike.org/be/index.asp?DoAction=...
That doesn't work either returns some scripted error everytime
What service and ISP are you with now tommy?
Zen via BT WBC the further diag, which is supposed to display the IP profile and enable the TAP3 test when throughput is deemed to below BT's threshold Just gives some error about trying again, wich so matter how many times you try results in the same message,lol
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 16-Apr-19 00:32:24
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In reply to a post by b4dger:
I notice BT have changed their 'speedtest/IP profile' and 'availability' websites:

http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com and http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/
The latter is now https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ .

1999: Freeserve 48K Dial-Up => 2005: Wanadoo 1 Meg BB => 2007: Orange 2 Meg BB => 2008: Orange 8 Meg LLU => 2010: Orange 16 Meg LLU => 2011: Orange 20 Meg WBC

Edited by XRaySpeX (Tue 16-Apr-19 00:33:40)

Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Apr-19 10:24:05
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In reply to a post by tommy45:
In reply to a post by GonePostal:
In reply to a post by b4dger:
Good to see BT are s l o w l e y looking at their website tools.
I notice http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com/ has gone back to a non-FLASH version which is good to see.


Hasn't made the results any more accurate.
True, and it still wont display the IP profile either, another defunct part of BT, time they removed their IP profiles IMO


I get an IP Profile after carrying out the 'further diags' option.

Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Tue 16-Apr-19 10:30:08
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In reply to a post by XRaySpeX:
In reply to a post by b4dger:
I notice BT have changed their 'speedtest/IP profile' and 'availability' websites:

http://www.speedtest.btwholesale.com and http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/
The latter is now https://www.dslchecker.bt.com/ .

You would think/hope that the BT people that introduced the https would also arrange for a redirection from the http ! #halfajob

Standard User threelegs
(regular) Tue 16-Apr-19 16:48:24
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In reply to a post by adslmax:
In reply to a post by TygerTyger2010:
This URL, found through Google, seems to work at the moment: http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/totl.login?identif...


You have to be careful as BT might taken action against you.

WARNING: You have accessed a system managed by BT. You are required to have authorisation from BT before you proceed and you are strictly limited to the use set out within that authorisation which is set out in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide titled ADSL checker service provider usage document. Unauthorised access to or misuse of this system is prohibited and constitutes an offence under the Computer Misuse Act 1990. If you disclose any information obtained through this system without authority BT may take legal action against you. Only proceed if you are authorised to.
The information contained in the Broadband Availability Checker User Guide includes instructions which are contractual instructions pursuant to paragraph 3.2 (b) of the Conditions of BT Datastream and BT IPstream Service as applicable.


interestingly the link took me to the checker and when I put in my phone number it then told me all about my service icluding where the ONT was in the house and it wasnt until I logged out that the warning disclaimer came up!!!
Standard User blfamily
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 20-Apr-19 10:00:44
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The DSL tchecker now includes an Observed Speeds VDSL section showing the download and upload speeds and date of tests. It may have been there ages, but it's new to me.
Anyway the speed it shows is the speed my router is connected at, which is confirmed by Speedofme showing 68.4mbps compared to BT's 72.3mbps.

Steve
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 20-Apr-19 10:27:14
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About a year, IIRC. Maybe a bit longer. I think the first report of it here might have been by adslmax.

Iím not sure what those two apparently speed test figures have to do with the sync speed, other than that they cannot legitimately exceed it, but the speed your router is connected at is not shown by speed tests. Only the router stats tell us that.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk. Domains, site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Three 4G, tbb tests normally 35-45Mpbs down, 65Mbps off-peak, 9-24 up. BQM
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Edited by RobertoS (Sat 20-Apr-19 10:30:46)

Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 21-Apr-19 00:27:49
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The DSL tchecker now includes an Observed Speeds VDSL section showing the download and upload speeds and date of tests.
Not just VDSL, but ADSL & G.Fast, if you're on them.

It's the observed max sync speed of your router at the time. Nowt to do with any speedtests or "SpeedOfMe".

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