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(deleted) Thu 29-May-08 07:47:48
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Best adsl router chipset?


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I am thinking of upgrading and am curious what the current thinking is in regard to the best chipset in a adsl modem to connect to BT's ADSL Max products? I know that not two routers are all alike. Sometime back I read that the chipset in Speedtouch routers was really good. I'm just looking for a plain adsl modem with a few built in ethernet ports, no built in wifi, etc.
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(deleted) Thu 29-May-08 09:50:50
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People will have their own views as to which is best. Could you please supply some line stats? If you have a perfect line, a tin can and some wet string will work well. The crunch comes with less-than-perfect lines.

Cheers

DrT
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(deleted) Thu 29-May-08 10:19:14
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downstream:

noise margin downstream: 9 db
output power upstream: 11 db
attenuation downstream: 33 db

upstream:
noise margin upstream: 24 db
output power downstream: 19 db
attenuation upstream: 21 db

Currently synced at: 6880


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(Unregistered)Thu 29-May-08 14:20:45
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Modem State               : SHOWTIME_L0

Remote Report : Showtime
Last Failure :
Time Connected : 35:25:11
Modulation : G.dmt
Rate Us/Ds (Kbps) : 832 6848
Cap. Occupation Us/Ds (%) : 93 99
Noise Margin Us/Ds (dB) : 12 12
Attenuation Us/Ds (dB) : 14 25
Output Power Us/Ds (dBm) : 12 20
FEC Errors Us/Ds : 248 224
CRC Errors Us/Ds : 2 89
HEC Errors Us/Ds : 2 67
Driver Version : 0.9.3
Firmware Version : PCI-AML-1-0.4-0.1.0.10
ADSL: status ATM ready, modem state SHOWTIME L0, US rate 831Kbits/s, DS rate 6847Kbits/s
Current speed: US 0Kbits/s,DS 0Kbits/s
Current speed: US 0Kbits/s,DS 0Kbits/s
Bridged: 00:c0:4c:7f:dc:2e
AAL5: tx 966964 ( 0 err ), rx 1093609 ( 0 err, 0 drop )
AAL0: tx 0 ( 0 err ), rx 0 ( 0 err, 0 drop )

I'm on a line with a DLM enforced Downstream 12dB SNR. The above figures were obtained from a BeWAN PCIst modem.
When I connect a SMC 7904WBRA-N router (purchased from PCWorld) to the same line, I get the following (apologies for the lack of formatting);

Status:
Line Status
SHOWTIME
============Configured=========Current
Link Type======== --- =========== Interleave Path
Data Rate:
Actual Data Rate
Up Stream 832 (Kbps.)
Down Stream 8128 (Kbps.)
Noise Margin=============Attenuation
Upstream 13 dB ========== 13 dB
Downstream 13 dB ======= 26 dB

As can be seen , the line is interleaved (even though I paid NewNet for it to be switched off). Therefore, the SMC is breaking the rules/specification in BT SIN 386, as the max sync rate should be 7616kbps. However, it works!

Good Luck!
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(deleted) Thu 29-May-08 19:04:09
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Although it's got wireless as well as 4 LAN ports, I reckon this takes some beating at the moment. Make sure you get the version 4 though. It has the same chipset as the Speedtouch but most people seem to agree it has a better browser user interface.

John.
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(deleted) Fri 30-May-08 06:43:47
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Thanks for that. People seem to indicate that the Thomson Speedtouch has the best chipset for working on long lines. Whilst my line isn't that long, if I am going to upgrade routers I figure I might as well put in a modem/router that will get the most out of the line. Every little bit helps I figure if you aren't getting a full 8mb sync!
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(staff) Fri 30-May-08 12:27:08
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The performance of the Home Hub which seems to be poor on long lines and is actually a Thomson box speaks volumes, i.e. it is not just the chipset but all the other components and software that control really how the modem performs.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
The author of the above post is a thinkbroadband staff member. It may not constitute an official statement on behalf of thinkbroadband.
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-08 00:44:46
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Not Quite what you asked for but here's a comparison of routers on ADSL2+

http://adsl24.co.uk/hardware_test.php

Speedtouch routers seem to come out top.
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-08 07:57:45
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That's very helpful. I think I'm going to go Speedtouch. Thanks.
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(deleted) Sat 31-May-08 08:03:15
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Interesting question!

I used to have a stable connection of over 3500 sync with an SNR of 6 with my Westell 2400 but then things got flakey after something like 4 years of good but fluctuating SNR of around the 6 mark.

Well BT got on the case and my sync dropped lke a stone with Interleaving turned on and an snr of 15. BT man paid a site visit and said my line passes all his tests so the ISP suggested a router change is the only thing to try now - went for the Netgear DG834Gv3 (v3 was 'best' as v4 seemed to be getting varied press as to how good it was on long lines).

So after weeks a return to my "original" service has still yet to be achieved but at the moment I am at 3136 with an average snr of 7. Oh forgot to say my Line Att is 54 - this was reported as 57 by the old Westell and if I recall the BT engineer also got 54 on his kit.

My line possibly has an undergorund fault that needs resolving but I also think the automated line management has changed and is more "critical" of fluctuations. The old Westell used to hold the line like a leech whatever the varaitions, so was it really starting to fail or has my problem all along been down to a line fault or the line management control being changed???

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