Ipv6 Capable ADSL router list

Hi,

I'm trying to track down a list of IPv6 capable ADSL (ADSL2+) routers. Ideally, low cost, not Cisco, Juniper etc. The best I have found so far is

http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/ipv6-cpe-survey-...

Does anyone know of a better list?

Does anyone know of any routers which support native IPv6?

I'm not looking for a home built solution using the Vigor 120 bridge (tried that, didn't like it).

Thanks, Cuthbei

Billion BiPAC 7800NL looks like one of only a few.

No price yet though

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?...

Billion have said they're updating the 7800N to support IPv6 in Q1 2011. We'll have to wait and see.

There is a commentary on the IPv4 exhaustion and an objective assessment on whether you need to rush out and buy a new IPv6 enabled router at this site http://www.trefor.net/2011/01/17/omg-the-internet-is...

Please read the article

"Consumers
As long as your ISP does support IPv6 then your routers don�t need to � the ISP can do a Network Address Translation on your behalf."

Good info

I wonder how it will affect those with hosted servers (I'm thinking DNS), and static routing?

In reply to a post by krazykizza:

Please read the article

"Consumers
As long as your ISP does support IPv6 then your routers don�t need to � the ISP can do a Network Address Translation on your behalf."

Doesn't it say somewhere that in fact it isn't quite as simple as that? Some routers still fail.

all of dlinks quad band devices are IPv6 silver and gold rated http://www.dlink.co.uk/cs/Satellite?c=Product_C&chil...

when doing my reserarch foudn alot of the N dual band and better are IPv6 ready.

However how well the deal with both Ipv4 and IPv6 is yet to been seen, could cause some major lag on alot of devices

Thanks for the link. Sadly none of the ADSL2+ enabled routers look to be in the quadband range, so I'll still need a seperate ADSL modem.

Thanks, Cuthbei

IPv6 to IPv4 NAT is a pain and not simple for some protocols (anything with an IP addr in the payload). I'm sure some ISPs will do a great job of it, others much worse. Personally, I want to move to IPv6 ASAP, but IP networking is my job, so I have several reasons to be interested.

We've been providing ADSL customers IPv6 (native/tunneled) for many years, but it's only recently that consumer-grade (ie cheap) routers are starting to to make themselves known! We've tested a few, but not found the perfect one yet. -these have been alpha/beta firmware though, so manufacturers still have work to do.
However, router manufacturers are all working on it (better late than never) - and we'll be testing more routers in the coming weeks.
What we as an ISP are looking for is on this page:
http://www.aaisp.net.uk/news-ipv6-routers.html

We don't have a list, but we're working on one.

(I currently have native IPv6 at home using a FireBrick 2700, but this isn't the solution for normal home lines due to cost, but perfect for businesses etc)

So, if I decided to change my second connection to IPv6 using the Firebrick what would it cost?

yea most likely due to

1) keeping them general allows them to be used in multiple instances

2) people that would get the most benifits would be those with some sort of fibre connection there fore keeping in no adsl make sence

Static routing paths will fail! Probably causing latency rises as traffic will have to go over enabled paths.

that may be so, speaking from a personal point of view, im all set!

Handy working in telecoms.

Thansk Andrew. I'll be intereted to see your list when it is available.

At the moment, the FB2700 available for early adopters, more info on these pages:
http://www.firebrick.co.uk/products_2700.php
http://www.firebrick.co.uk/beta.php
and prices/ordering on:
http://aaisp.net.uk/broadband-accessories.html
But do contact us for more info, either give us a call/email or pop in to our irc channel...

Wow - and I thought my DrayTeks were expensive.

Another option (there's always one):

Keep your ADSL modem, but put it into bridge mode. Buy a Mikrotik Routerboard (from linitx.com - RB750 or RB750G if you want gigabit) and run IPv6 natively (over PPPoE, and assuming your ISP provides IPv6 address space) or 6in4 through a tunnel broker (if they don't).

This has the advantage that you don't have to change your ADSL modem - for people like me who find different brands give different performances at different locations, it's a very big plus point (a Billion modem syncs 2meg faster than anything else at my house, whereas Zyxels sync faster than anything else at the office). Using a 6in4 tunnel also means you're not forced to change ISP if yours doesn't provide IPv6 space.

The Routerboards are fantastically cheap pieces of kit with an amazing feature set (just compare the features with other routers/firewalls at 30 times the price and you'll see what I mean), and well worth looking at if you haven't already. Oh, and the usual disclaimer, I'm not associated with linitx.com or Mikrotik at all.

Nicholas.

Edited by deleted (Wed 02-Feb-11 15:20:19)

I emailed Billion about the 7800NL last year and while it is available in Australia and South Africa, they said they had no plans to sell it to general consumers in this country and instead only supply it to ISPs.

Hopefully the listing on Broadband Buyer means they've changed their mind but I'm not convinced (also accoriding to the same email Billion were supposed to have release the beta IPv6 7800N firmware by not but I've not seen it yet)

what proportion of ISPs support PPPoE out of interest ?

Thanks for the info. That would be a shame, as nobody else seems to be making much progress. I'm guessing we might start to see lots of products in the 2nd half of this year.

Cuthbei

I'm guessing we might start to see lots of products in the 2nd half of this year.

I'm hoping we won't have to wait that long.

I know my ISP (Andrews & Arnold) is looking at a number of routers with experimental IPv6 support at the moment and the MD has also mentioned being contacted by a manufacturer who has a very promising sounding product which could be available as soon as the end of this month (assuming it is suitable of course)

http://revk.www.me.uk/2011/02/entry-level-broadband-...

Billion were supposed to have release the beta IPv6 7800N firmware by not but I've not seen it yet)

Apparently it's out(?) but only for PPPoE at the moment.

In reply to a post by yarwell:

what proportion of ISPs support PPPoE out of interest ?

I don't know about LLU providers but (almost ?) all BT lines support PPPoE connection and the ISPs shouldn't care what system the line is running on.

Edited by deleted (Thu 03-Feb-11 09:15:59)

there have been cases of ISPs not supporting PPPoE, for whatever reason, but that may have gone away.

I'm not sure if the ethernet framing is stripped off by BT before presentation to the ISP.

A&A are now taking pre-orders for an IPv6 Capable Contrend router on their website.
http://aaisp.net.uk/broadband-accessories.html

(The actual model is the Comtrend AR-5382u
http://www.comtrend.com/es/links/79$product.htm)

The description from the A&A website is
"A small ADSL2+ annex M router based on Broadcom chipset, supports IPv6 and IPv4. Includes firewall, 4 port switch, WiFi and even a USB host port for 3G dongle. As pre order we cannot guarantee all features work exactly as specified, may need s/w upgrades.Pre order, supplied as received from manufacturer, expected late Feb 2011"

As they warn it may not have all it's features working out of the box, but once everything is sorted the £50 they are asking for it would seem to be damn good value (are there any other routers for that price which for example support a 3G dongle ?)

We may have to wait a long time.

All reference to IPv6 seems to have been expunged from Billion's Taiwan website.

Even the 7800NL, which until a few weeks ago was flagged "New!", and appeared to be a credible dual-stack offering, seems now to have been downgraded to unremarkable IPv4 wireless ADSL router.

A cynic might think Billion is more interested in bagging an IPv6 Ready logo than delivering useful product to end users.

RWF

Beta software, supporting IPv6, is currently available for the 7800N.

Check out the following thread on the "DSL Hardware Discussion" forum.

Billion-7800-is-the-new-thomson-st586v6 legendary

As far as I am aware, several Thinkbroadband members are trying it out.

- Alex