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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Apr-11 18:55:25
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
Although maybe a little OT, do you know of any Billions that have the same chipset and control but without the price tag?

I.e just a standard ADSL2+ router with no backup WAN options.

Matt

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Sun 17-Apr-11 19:28:03
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


[re: uno] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by uno:
Although maybe a little OT, do you know of any Billions that have the same chipset and control but without the price tag?

I.e just a standard ADSL2+ router with no backup WAN options.

Matt


The Billion 7700N is a budget version of the 7800N (should cost around £50-£60) and should be released soon in the UK. It uses the same chipset Broadcom 6358 but comes without EWAN and without gigabit ports (just has 4 x 100mbps LAN ports)
http://www.billion.uk.com/product/wireless/7700n.htm

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Attenuation 27db down / 9db up
Noise Margin 3.3 db down / 12db up
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Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 17-Apr-11 19:29:49
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
Cheers for the tip. I'll keep my eye out.

The cheaper one might sit a little better with users that need something to tweak but don't want to spend too much.

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Standard User Banger
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 17-Apr-11 19:41:57
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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Cheers for the info Mr Frogmella.

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Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Sun 17-Apr-11 22:33:46
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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Looks like it could be available here next month and probably elsewhere too tongue smile

Alastair

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Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Mon 18-Apr-11 10:50:17
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
Thanks for that link - it sounds like it might be a useful router smile

It's also nice to see a manufacturer that actually names the chipset rather than people having to rely on other people's investigations. I guess Netgear don't name the chipset as they use a different one every other week! wink

Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Apr-11 12:58:17
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


[re: baby_frogmella] [link to this post]
 
Just to add a further reply.

Got this delivered today and yes, very ugly which is a shame but seems to work very well. More testing to be done but the 2820n is taking a back seat now.

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Standard User RSTSGeek
(regular) Tue 19-Apr-11 13:48:02
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


[re: uno] [link to this post]
 
I got mine about a month ago. No major complaints so far.

Mine is hidden under the desk, out of normal sight, so it's
looks are no issue at all.

One minor complaint is, that it does not report errors for ADSL2+,
but I can live with that, for the time being.

The most useful feature, for me, has been the ability of the
SNR Margin tweaking to survive a reboot. Using that facility,
I have pushed my profile up from 6500 to over 7000, with no
attendant problems.

- Alex
Standard User uno
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 19-Apr-11 13:51:02
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I think it does report errors.. but can only find them via SNMP.

Have created some nice graphs as I had with the Vigor, just need to create a template for them.

Matt

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Tue 19-Apr-11 20:08:19
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Re: Billion 7800N is the new "Thomson ST586v6"...LEGENDARY


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In reply to a post by RSTSGeek:
The most useful feature, for me, has been the ability of the
SNR Margin tweaking to survive a reboot. Using that facility,
I have pushed my profile up from 6500 to over 7000, with no
attendant problems.

- Alex


Even better, if you save your configuration settings under Advanced>Configuration>System>Backup/Restore>Backup it even saves your tweaked SNR margin in the backup file! So no need to faff around with the SNR values once you upgrade your firmware....just reload that backup file and bobs yer uncle smile

TalkTalk Plus LLU ADSL2+ connected @ 17612/1019 kbps
Attenuation 27db down / 9db up
Noise Margin 3.3 db down / 12db up
Powered by Billion BiPAC 7800N

Edited by baby_frogmella (Tue 19-Apr-11 20:09:49)

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