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Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Sat 21-May-11 23:59:29
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Need Cheap ADSL Router (Broadcom 6358)


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whats the cheapest router i can get that uses the Broadcom 6358 chipset? i dont need anything fancy, no wireless or anything, just something rock solid reliable and fast.

i currenty use a draytek vigor2600vg and it syncs at around 4meg average on my bulldog line, today i tried a billion bipac 5200 RC and i was solid at 6meg. the bipac i borrown from cousin. i not sure what chipset it uses but from reading around the best modems use the Broadcom 6358 chipset. so i trying to find something cheapo based on that chipset.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 22-May-11 09:09:49
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There is no such thing as "the best modems". It very much depends on what kit is installed at the exchange end.

In particular the huge focus in these forums on the Broadcom chip benefits is mainly to do with O2 and Be LLU, where Broadcom exchange equipment is used, and O2/Be use a setting on that which can improve performance if the user modem also has Broadcom.

What does the Bipac have? In fact what does the Draytek have? I confess I don't know.

Re the Broadcom 6358, that is quite rare except in the current expensive models. As far as I know the only significant difference from the very common 6348 is that the chipset supports wireless N, whilst the 6348 does not. As you aren't fussed about wireless I suggest you consider either.

So to answer your question, the SpeedTouch 585v6 and v7 are Broadcom 6348 based and seem to me to connect a few hundred kbps faster than the Netgears I'm about to list. However they aren't too good at handling noisy lines and can often overheat, causing trouble. The overheating is easily cured by propping one side up 1"/2.5cm to create a throughflow of air.

Netgears, the version number is very important. All the following are 834 models but only the versions I give (if I give a version) have Broadcom:-

834v4, 834Gv4, 834GT, 834PN, 834Nv1. The first of those does not have wireless, the rest do. Netgears are best stood on end - many have small detachable feet to do that. Possibly another heat problem and I would expect the ones without wireless to suffer less.

Those are 6348 chipsets apart from the 834Nv1 which is 6358.

There is also the later DGN2200. I think that is 6358 not 6348, as it supports wireless N.

Avoid 834v5, 834Gv5 and 834Nv2. Those are Conexant and seem to be poor on any connection.

834 and 834G v1,v2 and v3 are Texas Instruments AR7 chipsets and have a decent reputation, just not as good as Broadcom on O2/Be.

I suggest the place to look is on eBay. I believe there are a lot of Sky-badged 834s there. Those need unlocking to use them on other providers, but that seems to be easy enough, although I don't know how myself. Browse/ask around on these forums.

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Edited by RobertoS (Sun 22-May-11 09:15:26)

Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 11:34:31
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
There is no such thing as "the best modems". It very much depends on what kit is installed at the exchange end.

In particular the huge focus in these forums on the Broadcom chip benefits is mainly to do with O2 and Be LLU, where Broadcom exchange equipment is used, and O2/Be use a setting on that which can improve performance if the user modem also has Broadcom.


Actually that's not true. Its generally accepted that Broadcom chipset based routers provide the best line speed and stablity irrespective of what equipment is used at the DSLAM in the exchange. For example TalkTalk use Infineon gear in their DSLAM so you might think a infineon chipset based router will give you the best connection? Wrong! The Talktalk supplied router Huawei HG532 (infineon chipset) syncs far lower than any broadcom based router on a talktalk LLU line.

Anyway to the OPs question, get the Billion 7700N. It uses a Broadcom 6358 chip and is reasonably priced @ £50
http://www.expansys.com/billion-bipac-7700n-wireless...

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Edited by baby_frogmella (Sun 22-May-11 11:36:25)


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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 22-May-11 12:53:46
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I don't agree, the tt supplied router may under perform when connected to tt's llu kit
but that's probably because it's a t3rd most probably almost any router will perform better than it,
And do you seriously expect tt to give you a router that will give top performance ?

as for broadcom routers in general they tend to offer a reasonable level of performance on almost any line,
Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 13:12:16
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I don't agree, the tt supplied router may under perform when connected to tt's llu kit
but that's probably because it's a t3rd most probably almost any router will perform better than it,
And do you seriously expect tt to give you a router that will give top performance ?

as for broadcom routers in general they tend to offer a reasonable level of performance on almost any line,


Believe it or not, TalkTallk do give out a free decent router on their plus package: Dlink 2640R which is (surprise surprise) broadcom based. But they also give out the Huawei HG532, its pot luck which router you get. As to why the HG532 is a "t3rd" its simply because of its inferior chipset...nothing to do with its looks, number of flashing disco lights, whether it can make the tea or not etc. The chipset is the main component of any router and determines how fast your line syncs and to what degree it can tolerate noise on the line.

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Edited by baby_frogmella (Sun 22-May-11 13:12:33)

Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-May-11 13:28:44
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I don't agree with some of that I'm afraid.

My Broadcom 585v6 has transformed my line - which isn't LLU.

My Exchange uses 'Texas Instruments' equipement - so matching manufactures isn't the key. The TI Netgears are dead loss for me!

My line is noisy and the Broadcom chipset (585v6 / DG834GT) manages it much better than some of the other chipsets I've tried.

smile

Standard User Oldjim
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-May-11 13:53:46
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looks like that router isn't going to be available for some time unfortunately
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Sun 22-May-11 14:52:48
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thanks for the replies, i will probably go for the billion bipac 7700 since it seems like it is the cheapest one i can get. im still hunting for somewhere to order in the uk, i just need real cheapo.

found the netgear one on amazon, is this good price?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0000E0YHF/ref=asc_df_B00...

i cant seem to find the billion in stock for a good price.
Standard User b4dger
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-May-11 15:30:29
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Yep that's a good price - but are you sure that one's a v4 with the Broadcom chipset? Only the v4 has this chipset and they are up to v5...


I've bought from ADSL24's shop in the past - similar price:
http://adsl24.co.uk/compstore/broadband-phone-line-a...
They state it's a v4 and they know what they are talking about smile

Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Sun 22-May-11 15:33:57
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In reply to a post by slybunda:
thanks for the replies, i will probably go for the billion bipac 7700 since it seems like it is the cheapest one i can get. im still hunting for somewhere to order in the uk, i just need real cheapo.

found the netgear one on amazon, is this good price?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0000E0YHF/ref=asc_df_B00...

i cant seem to find the billion in stock for a good price.

Why don't you give Expansys a call tomorrow am and ask about 7700n availability? AFAIK Amazon should have had this in stock on 16 May but that dates been missed.

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Standard User tommy45
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-May-11 15:37:11
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or you could get a 585v6 or v7 off ebay, there was lots of ex sky netgears on there not that long ago, you would have to flash the firmware though,and make sure it was a v4 model
but £40 + for a new netgear DG834 v4 ain't bad, just depends if you need wireless or not,Billion routers tend to be more expensive but they do usually have more features
billion 7800
this is a more upto date version also broadcom based

Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Sun 22-May-11 16:42:36
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thanks for the replies again. i have a buffalo wifi access point so not really need a wifi router, although if the billion 7700 is good enough then i could remove the buffalo to get less clutter.

i will wait for a week or so and see if the 7700 comes into stock anywhere at cheapo price then i will purchase.

the wifi router i have is a buffalo wzr-hp-g300nh. if there is a ethernet modem i can get that uses the broadcom chipset then i could use the buffalo as the main router and just feed it the internet from a ethernet modem. anyone know of any cheapo ethernet modems that use the broadcom chipset im after?

id like to do this on the cheapo, also the netgear is good but its old, for tenner more i get the bipac 7700n which seems to be well worth the extra 10 quid over the dg834. but it depends if expansis gets stock and charges £50 for it or more.
Standard User Apprentice
(knowledge is power) Sun 22-May-11 19:45:28
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Some broadcom chipped routers listed here but you would need to find out the chip number if that is important to you.

Alastair

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Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Sun 22-May-11 20:43:14
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that list is rather old but still nice to know. if i come across something cheapo i could get it. thompson speedtouch ones seem to be real cheapo, i looking into one of those at the moment. possibly get one for under 30 quid.
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Sun 22-May-11 20:49:49
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£30 inc free delivery:
http://adsl24.co.uk/compstore/thomson/Thomson-510-v6...

thomson 510 v6, what chipset does this one use?

thanks
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 22-May-11 21:42:02
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Well on their list it is a Broadcom, so (a) that probably means all versions, as they split up Netgears, and (b) if it isn't you can therefore return it. I would be almost certain it will be a 6348 not 6358.

I'd have a go. Thomson = SpeedTouch by the way.

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Standard User Adsl24
(fountain of knowledge) Sun 22-May-11 22:08:06
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The Speedtouch 510v6 is actually the cheaper Broadcom chipset, 6338. So is the 585v7. The 585v6 was a 6438. The 585v8 is Infineon, so not Broadcom at all.

We do have DG834 v4's in stock which is your best bet as it's a 6348 (no real difference to 6358 IMHO)

James
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Edited by Adsl24 (Sun 22-May-11 22:09:28)

Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 23-May-11 18:02:25
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In particular the huge focus in these forums on the Broadcom chip benefits is mainly to do with O2 and Be LLU, where Broadcom exchange equipment is used, and O2/Be use a setting on that which can improve performance if the user modem also has Broadcom.


and before BE's big expansion / being bought by O2 - the same applied to Bulldog (before C&W sold them).

I assume the OP is still connected to the same bulldog/C&W DSLAMs, and in which case the broadcom chips will help. I used a ST516v6 when I was with bulldog in bridge mode. Nice tiny box, didn't get warm - but it didn't support Annex M.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
Standard User nonBEliever
(regular) Tue 24-May-11 02:05:18
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In reply to a post by Adsl24:
The Speedtouch 510v6 is actually the cheaper Broadcom chipset, 6338. So is the 585v7. The 585v6 was a 6438. The 585v8 is Infineon, so not Broadcom at all.

We do have DG834 v4's in stock which is your best bet as it's a 6348 (no real difference to 6358 IMHO)


Is the correct answer the other specs for the chipset of the 585v7 incase anyone was still interested are
CPU: BCM6338KFBG
Switch: BCM5325EKQMG
Wireless: BCM4318KFBG
Flash: S29GL032N90TFI04 (Spansion 32 Megabit)
RAM: DS1216AGTA-75-E (Elpida 128 Megabit)

Dunno who said it was a 6348 chipset but obviously they dunno what they were on about.

The 6358 chipset (depending on model of router it is in) is capable of running at a higher clock speed than the 6348 and makes the 6338 chipsets look very poor in comparison. (the 6348 and 6358 are faster). The 6358 is not only capable of wireless N and faster clock speed over both the 6348 and 6338 but also can be teamed with higher amounts of Flash and RAM. (Again though that will depend on actual router model).

For the most part a BCM6348 chipset will suit most people fine (unless they insist on using what i deem is the pointlessness of wifi on any router even N rated). Its a resonable paced chipset has a decent amount of RAM in most cases and is reliable.

The Thomson 585v7 which so many providers seem to give away like smarties with its horrid 6338 chipset is a nasty slow heap by todays standards.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Tue 24-May-11 08:20:58
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In reply to a post by nonBEliever:
For the most part a BCM6348 chipset will suit most people fine (unless they insist on using what i deem is the pointlessness of wifi on any router even N rated). Its a resonable paced chipset has a decent amount of RAM in most cases and is reliable.


Whilst i agree that wired is preferable to wireless, wifi N is hardly "pointless" and provided you don't have too much channel interference, then its pretty damn good. For example in my detached house, my Billion 7800N sits upstairs in the bedroom and broadcasts HD films from the internet (Netflix) wirelessly to my TV downstairs (connected to Boxee Box) without any stuttering at all.

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Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Tue 24-May-11 19:20:01
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yes i am still on the original bulldog DSLAM, connected at ADSL1 (up to max 8mbit) i average 4mbit connection for the last 4 years using my draytek router. but just for a try i thought i would test my cousins new billion 5200 and to my surprise it synced at 6mbit and for the first time i was able to download windows service pack from microsoft website getting 627k a sec sustained.

this is why im looking into getting a new router. i could easily net an extra 50% more speed compared to the draytek. dunno why the draytek is so slow and has frequent disconnections, around 1 disconnect every 2 days, it cost 109 quid!!!
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Tue 24-May-11 19:25:30
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ok looks like iv narrowd down my choices, im either looking at the netgear DGN2200, or the Billion 7700.

both are of similar price, which one would you guys say is going to be the better choice?
Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Tue 24-May-11 19:47:04
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In reply to a post by slybunda:
ok looks like iv narrowd down my choices, im either looking at the netgear DGN2200, or the Billion 7700.

both are of similar price, which one would you guys say is going to be the better choice?


I'd say the Billion 7700N is better primarily because of the newer broadcom chipset. I'll also be buying the 7700N (to use as a spare router) and i asked Billion UK today about its release date; they said retailers will start having this in stock from 6th June. If you cannot wait that long, then the DGN2200 is also a very good choice smile

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Standard User baby_frogmella
(committed) Tue 24-May-11 19:53:01
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dunno why the draytek is so slow and has frequent disconnections, around 1 disconnect every 2 days, it cost 109 quid!!!


Many Draytek routers use the Infineon chipset which is pants frown

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Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Tue 24-May-11 19:56:12
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iv used my current draytek for over 4 years so another month is not going to be a problem. i though the gdn2200 was broadcom 6358 based?

i just found a netgear DG834GSP v3 in my wardrobe, its virgin branded. im currently using it now and it too is syncing at 6016kbps. i know for sure that im sync locked by the isp to 6meg because many years ago i had disconnection issues due to dodgey phone line so i rang up bulldog and asked them to cap the line so it doesnt sync above 6meg. this reduced the rate of disconnections i used to get.

i shocked that the draytek only gets around 4meg sync. the netgear router i using is infineon chipset. it seems to be considerably better than what the draytek can manage. shocking.

shame the dynamic dns service on the router doesnt support changeip.com.

i will test this netgear out for a few days. if its reliable then i may be able to get away without purchasing a new router.
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Tue 24-May-11 20:07:06
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the draytek 2600vg i have uses a samsung arm cpu and an eagle 2 chipset.
here is internal pics:
http://7pp7eg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pwXIQYZ6SzsFa2...

http://7pp7eg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pQKfAShbsT7q7q...


http://7pp7eg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pPKOiI2V7-PI3P...

http://7pp7eg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pnhlOSBHOElpOq...

cant see anything to do with infineon in there.
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Tue 24-May-11 20:09:42
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and here is a pic of the insides of the netgear im using:
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2382/img0001ka.jpg

can see its infinion chipset.

and this netgear syncing 50% quicker and yes im getting 600k+ downloading torrent now. amazing. cant believe i could have had this sort of speed years ago if i had bothered to try another router.
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Tue 24-May-11 23:01:56
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Many Draytek routers use the Infineon chipset which is pants frown


I don't know whats in the 2820 - but mine sync's faster than the broadcom but is a lot less stable; and drops the line at a twitch of a cats whisker (ie, lots) - whereas the broadcom in the 585v7 holds the line for 10+ days then resyncs - which is a better.

I put it down to an incompatibility between the draytek firmware and/or chip, and the DSLAM.

James - be* pro - on THFB - sync about 17.2mbps - BQM
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Wed 25-May-11 14:04:45
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i need line stability so i dont get any disconnections while on skype or playing online games. so will invest in broadcom router. billion 7700 seems like best bet for the money.
Standard User epyon
(newbie) Wed 25-May-11 15:15:07
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I've found on Talktalk lines that the Thomson 585v8 is pretty good

Also my DG384GT does well..

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 17-Jan-12 15:01:56
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tp-link w8960 has the same broadcom chipset as billion 7800, unlike billion 7700, which has a different broadcom chipset from the former two.

here's the info:

http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/bc/hardware/?action=h_models
Standard User slybunda
(newbie) Sat 18-Feb-12 23:48:12
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hi all, i got a new td-w8960n to replace my draytek vigor 2600vg, however i noticed that although i do get faster sync speeds with the tp-link if the tp-link disconnects its resyncs and gets wan ip address but it wont pass any data over the wan connection, its like its stuck, a power cycle or login to router gui and reboot fixes the problem till it looses sync again and repeats the process. wifi and everything else, works fine.

im using the latest firmware, my draytek when looses sync reconnects again fine, anyone have any idea why the tp-link does this? iv also had a billion bipac 5200s and a netgear dg834g v3 do the exact same thing the tp-link does.

looses sync, resyncs, gets wan ip but no data passes over the wan connection till i do soft reboot or hard reboot.
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 19-Feb-12 00:34:35
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
So to answer your question, the SpeedTouch 585v6 and v7 are Broadcom 6348 based and seem to me to connect a few hundred kbps faster than the Netgears I'm about to list. However they aren't too good at handling noisy lines and can often overheat, causing trouble. The overheating is easily cured by propping one side up 1"/2.5cm to create a throughflow of air.
Thompson TG585 V7-8 give a faster sync than a netgear dg834v4 ,lol if ya say so right yeah, sorry but that's just b.......... s That pile of junk is cheap for a reason, it's also not user friendly most of the important commands being hidden away telenet based cli commands , as they aren't included in the very basic slow at loading GUI , that's why isp's give em away do your self a favour don't waste your money on a thompson buy a netgear
Standard User epyon
(committed) Sun 19-Feb-12 21:15:31
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585v7 would give near the same sync but not the v8 as it uses some [censored] infion chipset (only works well with BT lines so it seems).

Anyways if you want something cheap and decenting using the broadcom chipset try the TP-Link TD-W8960N

BE*Unlimited 19068/1403Kbps @ 3db INP1

Edited by epyon (Sun 19-Feb-12 21:17:12)

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Sun 19-Feb-12 21:35:00
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[re: epyon] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by epyon:
585v7 would give near the same sync but not the v8 as it uses some [censored] infion chipset (only works well with BT lines so it seems).

Anyways if you want something cheap and decenting using the broadcom chipset try the TP-Link TD-W8960N
Any thing is better than the Thompson junk isp's like to throw at their customer base , the tg585v7 gave me a lower sync than my netgear does, and things like port forwarding is very quick and easy to configure,all within it's Gui and the netgear has the spare recourses to respond to icmp requests without a delay , and does not have any backdoor's or connect to unknown entities without the users knowledge (unless of course they are familiar with it's CLI) I know that these can be disarmed but find that it's self unacceptable ,
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 24-Feb-12 11:51:36
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For anyone thinking of buying the Billion Bipac 7700N I found that it can suffer from overheating issues.
Standard User GunJack
(newbie) Fri 24-Feb-12 15:32:29
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Re: Need Cheap ADSL Router (Broadcom 6358)


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Why do people always seem to forget about D-Link DSL-2640B and DASL-2740B when talking about decent routers ??

2640B uses 6348 chipset, and 2740B the 6358. Both will work with routerstats and DMT for tweaking, and on my line out-perform the netgear 834 family of BCM routers. Can both be had quite cheaply on ebay.

I tweak down to 3dB (daytime) with my 2640 with no problems at all smile

oh, and don't go for the 2640R or 2740R models, NOT BCM chipsets, possibly Infineon but not tweakable or good frown

Edited by GunJack (Fri 24-Feb-12 22:52:02)

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