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Standard User maniac886
(member) Fri 13-Apr-12 06:51:50
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Suitable Homeplugs for 80/20 Infinity


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Hi All,

Now I have been upgraded I am able to get the speeds in my sig if I connect directly to my router however the current 200 Mbps Homeplugs I have are bottlenecking the speed to around 36Mbps and that is the maximum I can get. Should 500Mbps homeplugs be enough to make use of the speed upgrade?

Thanks

BT Infinity
200m to cabinet
72.15MB/s down / 16.03MB/s up
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 13-Apr-12 08:49:05
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Re: Suitable Homeplugs for 80/20 Infinity


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http://www.farina1.com/homeplug-gig-labelled.jpg

Devolo AV500+ units (in middle of review) and some speed testing copying files across local LAN.

The wireless was a DGN2200 to a Dell Precision M4400, data source SAS drives on quad core beast. Not figured out yet why the LAN to LAN copy was only 250Meg, got the same burst with direct cable, i.e. no switch involved.

If the rain stops plain is to see how far down the garden using extension leads I can get. Have made it to the garden shed so far.

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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Fri 13-Apr-12 09:01:26
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Re: Suitable Homeplugs for 80/20 Infinity


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homeplug 200's max out at around 65-70 % 100tx 6.7-7.0MB/s

most of them use the same chipsets

develo 200 with latest firmware seem to be most stable to me

so answer to fttc is no they wont handle your connection

best off using a gigabit lan and some cat5 cable to rule out further problems imo

saying that i have not used develo 500's due to how unstable they are and prone to running below 200av due to interference - in other words they are lot more sensitive to noise

but as andrew say he has got something in the region of 10MB/s with homeplugs

SOTV KRO BCFC smile

Edited by Stanman_24 (Fri 13-Apr-12 13:27:42)


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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 13-Apr-12 09:46:19
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Re: Suitable Homeplugs for 80/20 Infinity


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Plan was to re-do with AV200 this weekend, and then do the same with a mixture on the mains.

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www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Fri 13-Apr-12 13:30:02
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the develo av mini's are a nice piece of kit

i am watching my sky hd channels from my vu+ receiver to my desktop pcs with no glitching

was also presently suprised by throughput also

i did however plug the homeplugs into a gigabit switch as i noticed a better speed

worth trying andrew rather than direct into nic smile

if you google about you will find a website dedicated to homeplugs and how they were tried on different / modified firmware

SOTV KRO BCFC smile
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 13-Apr-12 13:38:24
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Maybe you misunderstood.

The tests involved a giga bit switch, but due to the behaviour of the PC to PC transfer when on pure ethernet cables and switch, I tried a direct cable link and got no better.

Seems pushing more than 250Mbps is not that easy across a LAN

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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Fri 13-Apr-12 20:19:21
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i am misunderstood now

are we talking just about homeplug connectivity or cat5 as well

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Standard User maniac886
(member) Fri 13-Apr-12 21:41:03
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Just to update as a temporary measure I have purchased a 1Gbps pair of Powerlines with a 1Gigabit switch until the 500Mbps Homeplug wall socket here are released which are a much neater solution for me.

Has anyone got any experience of these wall sockets?

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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 13-Apr-12 22:02:55
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I am using the Solwise 500Mbs home plugs I have five across the house and getting 8.9MB downloads per second using newsgroups so no complaints at all : D

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?...

and these

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?...
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sat 14-Apr-12 17:46:26
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AV200 versus AV500+


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Of course the 500Meg units were going to be faster but repeated the test on the same sockets.

http://www.farina1.com/images/AV200-labelled.jpg
http://www.farina1.com/images/homeplug-gig-2-labelle...

NOTE: DIFFERENT SCALES ON THE TWO PICTURES

The Ethernet LAN was using a 1Gig cable link and NO homeplugs, thus went off the graph at 250Mbps.

Conclusion the 500Meg HomePlug units won't probably be a bottlebneck for 80 Meg FTTC between two floors, but beyond that the speeds do drop off more. What was a suprise was how well it held up speed wise, when down the garden in the shed, i.e. down two floors, 15m down garden.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Sun 15-Apr-12 15:11:28
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interesting as my homeplugs seem to outperform your av200's by another 10mbps

try the 4.4.05 firmware from develo website

saying that there is hardly any difference

so on homeplug 500's your getting best case scenario around 16MB/S & around 5MB's on av's

impressive enough for me to buy some 500's from solwise in not so distant future

wouldn't mind seeing the gbit homeplugs in operation also andrew smile

thanks for work involved btw

SOTV KRO BCFC smile
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Sun 15-Apr-12 15:51:20
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Which Gigabit HomePlugs?

Devolo don't make any that are faster than these. Sure you aren't confusing the gigabit ethernet sockets?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 15-Apr-12 22:55:30
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sorry its not a reply to your post, the forums don't allow posting without choosing a post to reply(as far as I can see).

after many years of slow broadband(started at 512kb several years back to max of 2.5mb currently) will be moving onto bt infinity in a couple of weeks, with the btwholesale checker saying 51mb for our line(hopeful for higher) need a suitable method of connecting the hh3(which will be downstairs as the master socket is downstairs) to the desktop pc(upstairs) as long ethernet cable is not viable(we're looking at selling the house and the ethernet cable option requiring pulling up carpets, maybe drilling holes etc so as said not a viable option).

looking at http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/devolo-dlan-200mbps-av... as I also have a ps3 in the room so the 3 ethernet ports will be useful plus can get 10% off + quidco works out at ~£80, will they give the 50/60mb or looking at under 40mb and need the 500mbps version(http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/devolo-1721dlan-500-avtriple-starter-kit-11953986-pdt.html)?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 15-Apr-12 23:00:46
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In reply to a post by fowler002:
sorry its not a reply to your post, the forums don't allow posting without choosing a post to reply(as far as I can see).
The idea is you start a new thread, so as not to confuse an existing one smile.

On this page, or the equivalent in any forum, there is a Post button in the heading menu.

Though you seem to have done the best thing in this case smile.

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Standard User Aaron_01
(member) Mon 16-Apr-12 00:31:22
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Re: Suitable Homeplugs for 80/20 Infinity


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What are the pings like LAN to LAN on the powerline plugs you all have? It's difficult to get any latency stats from Google, I've seen 4ms and 25ms(!), being an online gamer I'm just curious.

I might be getting TP-Link TL-PA211 plugs, seems to have a lot of reviews on amazon, the other brands - not much.

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2ms to a host on my LAN
Ethernet was 0ms
Wireless I think was 2ms, but had a higher spike of 133ms versus 17ms

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Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Apr-12 09:01:02
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i noticed about a 5ms increase from using wireless to homeplug

SOTV KRO BCFC smile
Standard User Stanman_24
(knowledge is power) Mon 16-Apr-12 09:02:29
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http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline-gig-pl-1000m.htm

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