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Standard User athegn
(member) Sun 05-Aug-12 18:55:17
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Wired and Wireless access from an ethernet port.


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I have a Thompson wifi router connected to my master socket.

From that I feed a 4 port ethernet hub that sends the broadband to several other rooms. In one room the ethernet feed is into a Netgear WAP. The Netgear is only a WAP so I cannot plug an ethernet cable into it to feed a non wireless PC.

One of these other rooms is in another building where I use a wired PC. I now want to use a wireless laptop and mobile phone in there, as well as the wired pc, but the signal from the Thompson router is undetectable and from the WAP is very weak.

What would I need to put in this room to retain ethernet to the wired pc and get wireless to the laptop/phone?
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Sun 05-Aug-12 19:02:38
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Re: Wired and Wireless access from an ethernet port.


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A wireless wap with a switch http://www.tp-link.com/en/products/details/?model=TL...

or maybe this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-EW-7228APN-150Mbps-Wi...


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Edited by BatBoy (Sun 05-Aug-12 19:10:28)

Standard User athegn
(member) Sun 05-Aug-12 21:09:55
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Thank you


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Standard User MHC
(legend) Sun 05-Aug-12 22:46:28
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Re: Wired and Wireless access from an ethernet port.


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Or you could use an old/surplus wireless router ...


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Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 08:48:19
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Re: Wired and Wireless access from an ethernet port.


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"..Or you could use an old/surplus wireless router ... ..."

I have such a unit; one of its ethernet output ports has died but the others are ok. Its a Speedtouch 780 WL.

Its DSL input is directly from the phone socket i.e. it is not an ethernet input. How can I put a broadband signal from the ethernet cable in the remote room?
Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 06-Aug-12 09:19:29
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You do not feed it with a DSL signal but Ethernet. Try the following ...

Power up the 780, not connected to anything. Connect a PC to an Ethernet port, access the user interface and then:
1. Turn OFF DHCP server
2. Give the 780 a new IP address within the range of your current hub - maybe 192.168.1.78
3. Ensure wireless is turned ON, but without any encryption (temporarily)
4. Save settings

Power off the 780

Connect one of the Ethernet ports on the 780 to an Ethernet port on your existing 4 port switch and power it up.

Connect a PC to the 780 and using a browser go to the 780s IP address (192.168.1.78) - can you see the UI? Connect PC to another port on your 4 port switch and try again?

If you can see those then you should also be able to get wireless access.

If that works, then install it in the room you require it and you will have a switch with 2 spare ports and wireless.

Then set up Wireless Encryption.



I had an even older Speedtouch running like this for a couple of years without problems (except it was only 802.11b).


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Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 14:58:34
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Thanks but how do I turn off DCHP.

I am logged into the Speedtouch but can only see:-

Speedtouch
Broadband Connection
Toolbox
Home Network

I cannot find a config for DCHP in these
Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 06-Aug-12 15:10:32
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I would guess it is under Home Network - or if you have a copy of the CLI guide and are confident, you could do it that way.


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Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 15:23:54
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Under Home Network are three headings:-

Wireless
Ethernet
Telephony

Under Ethernet are any number of machines that have been connected to this router.

But still no Edit or mention of DHCP.

I am not confident enough to use CLI ; I take that is command line interface?
Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 15:31:45
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If I look at the PC that is connected to the Speedtouch it does mention DHCP under Config option.

IP Address Assignment: DHCP

IP Address: 192.168.1.77

DHCP Lease time: 0 dayd, 23:17:55

But no way to edit these
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Mon 06-Aug-12 15:45:04
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This might be useful http://support.zen.co.uk/kb/Knowledgebase/SpeedTouch... smile
Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 06-Aug-12 15:58:09
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Without access to a device, I can't go any further.

What you are trying to do is STOP the 780 allocating the IP addresses to any device and allowing the other hub to do so.

In the CLI the instruction would be something like: dhcp server config state = disabled or dhcp server config state = disabled


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Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 16:06:18
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MHC

Thank you anyway.
Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 16:21:27
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Thank you

But when I login into 192.168.1.254 I do not get a start up sequence - 10.0.0.138 does not login.
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Mon 06-Aug-12 16:25:17
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You should see the Speedtouch Homepage. Click Speedtouch, then click Pick a Task and then Set-up.


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Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 16:28:48
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Found this in CLI manual

dhcp server config [state = <{ disabled / enabled } >]

tried typing that in a command prompt box got the message 'dhcp' is not recognised etc

Typed in:-

dhcp server config = disabled
Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Mon 06-Aug-12 17:35:51
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Not sure how you telnet the Speedtouch 780 WL but did you initially use:

telnet 192.168.1.254

then enter Username and Password?
Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 06-Aug-12 17:36:00
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Speedtouch originally used the 10.0.0.xxx private IP range but followed the sheep when most other started using 192.168.1.xxx you need to know which block yours is using.


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Standard User MHC
(legend) Mon 06-Aug-12 17:38:08
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That should be OK for his ST ... it will come up with a very login screen - reminiscent of an ASCII drawing! and then requests Name and Password.


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Standard User 4M2
(experienced) Mon 06-Aug-12 18:06:40
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Yep, that's what I get with a tg585v7 but haven't checked how to disable DHCP since the commands may be quite different for a Speedtouch 780 WL...
Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 06-Aug-12 19:59:07
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Found out something. My Win 64 bit does not have telnet enable by default.

Will have to leave for today; I shall return, hopefully with a success.
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Mon 06-Aug-12 20:10:24
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In reply to a post by athegn:
My Win 64 bit does not have telnet enable by default.


All Win7's are the same, see here:
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/ar...

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Standard User athegn
(member) Wed 08-Aug-12 16:18:48
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Returned for another try

Got telnet running now.

However also get Setup running on browser.

using setup I changed configuration with these settings:-

Device:
Name SpeedTouch 780
Serial # 0703JTQ3U

Device Configuration:
Region UK
Provider All
Service Data (Custom)
Description UK Custom Routed PPP connection

(Public Subnet config etc)

Routed Internet Connection:
VPI/VCI 0.38
Connection Type PPPoA (UK Default)
User Name zen******@zen
Password ********

Router Addressing:
LAN Addressing Scheme Private(with-NAT)
IP address of your SpeedTouch 192.168.1.91
Ethernet Subnet 192.168.1.0
Ethernet Mask 255.255.255.0

Address Management:
Enable DHCP disabled
Enter First DHCP Address 192.168.1.64
Enter Last DHCP Address 192.168.1.253


However I cannot logon to speedtouch via 192.168.1.91 the address I want to use.

I can via;-

Speedtouch - Unknown-08-2e-5f-23-f2-0d

which shows 192.168.1.254 the original IP address.

Where do I go from here
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Wed 08-Aug-12 16:45:13
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Does it work now as an ethernet switch and a WAP?


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Standard User athegn
(member) Wed 08-Aug-12 18:14:26
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Sought of.

My Samsung Galaxy S2 will connect via wifi. But my Dell laptop won't.

However now my Dell laptop won't connect to the Netgear WAP either; Galaxy will?

Once again having to leave this as next appointment arising.
Standard User Deadbeat
(knowledge is power) Wed 08-Aug-12 18:58:37
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Given what you said, the problem lies with your Dell. Try connecting without any encryption set. If that works, try WEP, then WPA.
Standard User jchamier
(knowledge is power) Wed 08-Aug-12 23:25:40
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In reply to a post by Deadbeat:
Given what you said, the problem lies with your Dell. Try connecting without any encryption set. If that works, try WEP, then WPA.


Look for a driver update for the Dell wireless, but there were issues with some cheaper Dell TrueMobile wireless cards with very problematic drivers.

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Standard User athegn
(member) Thu 09-Aug-12 08:29:32
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Quick check this morning

Speedtouch turned off. Dell now connects to Netgear WAP and Thompson router perfectly.

Perhaps some conflict when Speedtouch active?
Standard User BatBoy
(legend) Thu 09-Aug-12 08:40:37
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[re: athegn] [link to this post]
 
What SSID, password, encryption and channel did you specify on the Speedtouch?
You should have the same SSID, password and encryption but a different channel.


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Standard User athegn
(member) Fri 10-Aug-12 08:23:09
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THank you for everones help so far.

Have to put this on hold; holiday calling.
Standard User athegn
(member) Mon 27-Aug-12 18:05:26
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Returned from holiday; went down the Edimax route. Just worked straight out of the box.

Again thank you all for your advice.
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