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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Wed 24-Jul-13 09:44:33
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How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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Hi guys,

I've bought a TP-link TD-8840T (ADSL 2+ modem/router) that needs to be used with the Asus RT N66U. So how do I go about this as this is the first time doing it.

Do I need to set up and configure the ADSL 2+ modem/router first before disconnecting it and connecting it to the Asus RT N66U?

A step-by-step guide would be most appreciated, thanks.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 24-Jul-13 09:47:17
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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As that TP Link is a combined modem and router, best to run the RT-N66U in its access point mode

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/76-as...

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 24-Jul-13 09:47:58
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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To add, get the TP Link up and running and then configure the Asus device

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Wed 24-Jul-13 09:57:32
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
To add, get the TP Link up and running and then configure the Asus device


Thank you, will set up the TP-link first and then configure it with Asus. Will keep you updated with any obstacles I come across.
Standard User huwwatkins
(committed) Wed 24-Jul-13 10:02:54
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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Or you could set the TP link to modem mode if it has one and use the routing features of the Asus.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 24-Jul-13 10:11:37
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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I did not see mention on a quick browse of the specs, so went with what I know should work, i.e. I have run the RT unit in this mode

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Wed 24-Jul-13 10:14:25
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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In reply to a post by huwwatkins:
Or you could set the TP link to modem mode if it has one and use the routing features of the Asus.


So I wouldn't need to touch any settings of the TP-link if it has a modem mode (enabled) , so then I can configure all of the settings through Asus?
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(staff) Wed 24-Jul-13 10:35:11
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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Depends on the way the modem mode works on the TP-Link, but there would usually be stuff to configure in that, and then the subsequent NAT routing would be handled by the RT N66U router

Without that specific TP-Link to play with hard to say more

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Wed 24-Jul-13 10:48:49
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Depends on the way the modem mode works on the TP-Link, but there would usually be stuff to configure in that, and then the subsequent NAT routing would be handled by the RT N66U router

Without that specific TP-Link to play with hard to say more


Here is a link of the TP-link (modem/router), could you guys tell me what areas I need to configure in order to make it work with the Asus RT 66U, this would be much appreciated again.
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Wed 24-Jul-13 10:54:32
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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Page 25 of http://www.tp-link.com/Resources/document/TD-8840T_V...

Select WAN Service Setup bridge mode

VPI 0
VCI 38
Encapsulation mode VC-Mux
ATM Qos Type UBR

Then the Internet connection of the Asus needs to be setup as PPPOE mode in WAN | Internet Connection window, and there you supply your providers login credentials.

Generally if people are asking to the level of detail you are, it is best to use the TPLink to do modem and router function and leave the Asus to operate as a wireless access point as originally suggested.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Yakumounr
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 13:50:07
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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The RT-N66U isn't just pricey, it's worth it, it's absolutely one of the best consumer routers you can get, I wouldn't completely waste it by letting a tplink TD-8840T do the routing.

Use the tplink in modem only mode, let the rt-n66u do all the hard work.

Edited by Yakumounr (Mon 29-Jul-13 13:51:41)

Standard User Tau
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 17:50:09
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guys I'm getting the following error when inputting the VPI/VCI values (0/38) in my TP-link (see below)

"Notice:The current PVC has a plurality of connection, the following parameters prohibiting to modifying!"

"PPPoA don't support single PVC multi-channel connection"

Any help?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 29-Jul-13 18:57:24
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Sounds like it may already have a connection configured in the user interface?

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 19:38:08
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Sounds like it may already have a connection configured in the user interface?


So what actions are required?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 29-Jul-13 19:42:47
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Re: How to set up my ADSL 2+ to the Asus RT N66U


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See manual I used for reference at
http://www.tp-link.com/Resources/document/TD-8840T_V...

Page 17 - in the WAN settings do you have options shown, the trick would be to delete them, but as I don't know if you are trying to use bridge mode or pure PPPoA cannot comment much more.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 19:51:33
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
See manual I used for reference at
http://www.tp-link.com/Resources/document/TD-8840T_V...

Page 17 - in the WAN settings do you have options shown, the trick would be to delete them, but as I don't know if you are trying to use bridge mode or pure PPPoA cannot comment much more.


Sorry I'm trying to get the TP-link into bridge mode, so I can use my Asus as the main router . That said shall I follow what Page 17 states?
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(staff) Mon 29-Jul-13 20:45:01
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You will still need to get a bridge mode connection using VPI/VCI into the table, so edit an existing or delete them all.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 21:09:44
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I can bridge the TP-link, When I access the Asus setting I need it to PPPoE? correct? as I can't access the net now...
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Mon 29-Jul-13 21:18:27
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yes your router will make a PPPoE connection over a bridged modem in many cases. There are other ways of doing it.

Look for an external IP address on the WAN port of the Asus as the indication of success.

The modem needs to be in LLC/SNAP mode for PPPoE, not VCmux

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics

Edited by yarwell (Mon 29-Jul-13 21:19:19)

Standard User Tau
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 21:56:19
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In reply to a post by yarwell:
yes your router will make a PPPoE connection over a bridged modem in many cases. There are other ways of doing it.

Look for an external IP address on the WAN port of the Asus as the indication of success.

The modem needs to be in LLC/SNAP mode for PPPoE, not VCmux


There isn't a SNAP in my ATM QoS selection only the following:
CBR, GFR, VBR-nrt, VBR-rt, UBR-plus, ABR ?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 29-Jul-13 21:59:30
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[re: Tau] [link to this post]
 
VCMux is an encapsulation setting so it should be the Encapsulation Drop down box where you select the LLC/SNAP if only LLC listed then select that.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Mon 29-Jul-13 22:05:41
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
VCMux is an encapsulation setting so it should be the Encapsulation Drop down box where you select the LLC/SNAP if only LLC listed then select that.


Yeah I have changed the Encapsulation to LLC, but do I keep the ATM QoS type to UBR or does that need to anything I listed in my previous post?
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Mon 29-Jul-13 22:09:43
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Think it should be fine, a long time since I had a router which showed all the fiddly bits, most are more user friendly

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Standard User Tau
(newbie) Tue 30-Jul-13 00:33:24
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Guy's my ISP is Sky, I'm getting a feeling its PPPoA line? does that make it a problem for me to bridge?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 30-Jul-13 08:54:09
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Sky use something else other than PPPoA - it uses different VC numbers too.

http://helpforum.sky.com/t5/Broadband-Talk-Orders/Us...

they may or may not support PPPoA currently, and I don't know if they support the PPPoE that bridging would require. You may do better in a Sky forum or perhaps repost with "Using a bridged modem and router on Sky" etc as your title

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Tue 30-Jul-13 09:16:47
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It varies with Sky and the solution is usually to see what mode their existing Sky device is using.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/hardware/reviews/78-as...

Can't say I have felt the desire to try any bridging type modes, my old experiences put me off of this mode of operation when the bridge devices were the weak point.

Andrew Ferguson, [email protected]
www.thinkbroadband.com - formerly known as ADSLguide.org.uk
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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 30-Jul-13 09:27:58
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me neither, they're all a kludge. An IP address range is the best solution if you want a separate router and no double NAT.

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Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 30-Jul-13 19:46:36
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In reply to a post by yarwell:
Sky use something else other than PPPoA - it uses different VC numbers too.

Essentially IPoA with authenticated DHCP.

http://wiki.ph-mb.com/wiki/MER

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