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Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Wed 25-Dec-13 00:23:28
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BT Home Hub 5


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I'm looking to upgrade the Home Hub 5

Is it possible to use a RJ45 cable from the red WAN Port of the HH5 to the filtered faceplate on my NTE5 socket. Reason i'm asking is that I have a 20 metre Ethernet cable going from my Openreach modem to my netgar router.

I want my HH5 where my netgear router is because it's connected to my USB printer which is shared over the network.

I'm looking to get rid of the BT openreach modem because my 2 year old son keeps messing with it and switching it off.

Can I use a RJ45 to RJ11 converter if it's not possible?

Edited by rocketronnie75 (Wed 25-Dec-13 00:24:06)

Standard User MHC
(sensei) Wed 25-Dec-13 00:47:48
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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Yes, it is possible but may pick up more locally generated noise from inside the house and result in a drop in speeds.

As for the wiring - install a standard backbox with RJ11 or RJ45 socket at the remote location and run some solid conductor Cat5e back to the existing master and then connect that to the unfiltered output on the back of the NTE5 faceplate.


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Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Wed 25-Dec-13 11:25:56
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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as MHC says, you can extend the phone line from the master unfiltered output.
this would go to the dsl (black) socket on the hub5.

the red one is for using with the BT modem (particularly for real fibre)


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Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Sat 28-Dec-13 00:16:24
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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Would this work

http://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/RJ11maletoRJ45femalec...
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sat 28-Dec-13 07:32:13
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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Yes, you would need 2 - one each end of the Ethernet cable.

They would also work with the Openreach modem, so no need for a HH5. You could just move the modem to the other end, next to the Netgear.

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Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Sat 28-Dec-13 17:56:55
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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some filtered faceplates will take an rj45 directly, so may just need a converter at the modem end.
Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Sat 28-Dec-13 20:08:42
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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I have the VDSL faceplate and a google search suggests that it will take a RJ45 cable.
Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Sat 28-Dec-13 20:20:05
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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try it...
Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Sun 29-Dec-13 00:39:24
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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I've just found out that my homehub 5 won't recognise my printer via USB.

Can I just replace the BT openreach modem with the Home Hub 5 and keep my netgear router.

I plan to disable the wireless on the homehub 5 and use the Ethernet ports to connect to my skyhd box and tv

My netgear router is a dgnd4000.

Edited by rocketronnie75 (Sun 29-Dec-13 00:43:02)

Standard User ggremlin
(committed) Mon 30-Dec-13 19:49:07
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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Can I just replace the BT openreach modem with the Home Hub 5 and keep my netgear router.
hh5 doesn't have a modem only mode, for that its best to use the original openreach modem.
Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Wed 01-Jan-14 17:17:52
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Re: BT Home Hub 5


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Thanks guys for your replies. I finally managed to get it working after hours of trying.

I connected my Ethernet cable from the homehub (LAN Port) to the netgear (LAN Port) and disabled DHCP on the netgear and set it as a wireless access point.

I can now use wifi, Ethernet ports and print from both routers. I can also login to both routers settings. smile

Edited by rocketronnie75 (Wed 01-Jan-14 17:54:30)

Standard User rocketronnie75
(regular) Mon 06-Jan-14 11:41:25
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WOW!!! I'm impressed


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Since I replaced my openreach modem with the HH5 my sync speed has increased by nearly 18 meg..

With the openreach modem I was syncing at 52 meg and with the HH5 I'm syncing at 70 meg. I also replaced the original RJ11 cable with a 30cm cat5e RJ11 cable which has also helped.
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 30-Mar-14 16:48:26
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What are my options?


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Hi,

I was looking through this thread to find some answers prior to signing up for BT infinity. I rang BT and asked if it's possible to use the HH5 as just a modem as I already have a really good router Asus RT-N66U and *really* don't want to change it. After a "computer says no" conversation, I decided against going with BT. But I can't believe that's the only option. So.....I thought I'd ask the experts.....!

Are there standalone VDSL modems that would allow me to connect up to my router ? Can I insist that BT provide one? Can the HH5 really work as a modem as is (sort of) suggested in this thread? Or is there something else I should be considering.....?

Any help you can provide would be much appreciated.

Best wishes,

Jon
Standard User XRaySpeX
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 30-Mar-14 19:46:11
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Re: What are my options?


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What has your Q to do with this v. old thread that you have resurrected?

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 30-Mar-14 22:30:10
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Re: What are my options?


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Dear XRaySpeX,

Last activity was January this year, and perhaps if you read the thread and my question a bit more carefully you wouldn't need to write such a message

E.g.

In reply to a post by rocketronnie75:
Thanks guys for your replies. I finally managed to get it working after hours of trying.

I connected my Ethernet cable from the homehub (LAN Port) to the netgear (LAN Port) and disabled DHCP on the netgear and set it as a wireless access point.

I can now use wifi, Ethernet ports and print from both routers. I can also login to both routers settings. smile


So here was someone who had hooked up their HH5 to their existing router (something which BT says is not supported/impossible) and were effectively using the HH5 as a modem, but still using their router.

So what part of my original posting don't you understand?

Best wishes,

Jon
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 30-Mar-14 22:37:44
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Re: What are my options?


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You've misread that I'm afraid.

The HH there is still the router. It is the Netgear which has been changed into a Wireless Access Point, with DHCP disabled on it. The Home Hub is still being used as the modem/router.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Sun 30-Mar-14 22:46:04
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Re: What are my options?


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Hi RobertoS

Thanks for the clarification, so my only option is to get hold of a huawei modem from ebay if I want to carry on using my router.

Sorry if I sounded pissy on my last message, I just wasn't expecting to get flamed!

Cheers, Jon
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 30-Mar-14 22:55:11
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Re: What are my options?


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Probably yes.

Until recently you did get the modem as well, as the HH can be used in either was - as a modem/router or a "cable" router.

You are best to accept the HH, (if you go with BT which I'm not sure would be the right thing to do), as it only costs you the postage. As I think has been said, you should start up with it and make sure it works, so it is available for BT CS diagnostics and also as a standby in case your own kit falls over.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 59.4/14.4Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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Standard User deleted
(deleted) Wed 09-Apr-14 21:19:50
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Re: What are my options?


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you can simply connect you favourite router to the Hub and use it as you have before.. this wont disable the Hub router functionality. You will just have two routers thats all.. it is not impossible. if you have some fancy features like QoS (which I am not sure will have any effect in the BT network) this setup might do.. but remember that you are going all your packets to be processed twice and the latency will grow (although I imagine we are talking around 50ns here if you switch the Hub firewall and everything else what can be switched)...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 09-Apr-14 21:31:45
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Not quite that simple.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,site and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 58.7/14.6Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
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