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Standard User NBK
(experienced) Fri 09-Sep-16 22:43:13
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Re: BT Smart Hub accessories...


[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
Yeah my own Huawei modem has its modem cable router underneath a pair of mains sockets and above/on 2x8 way extension then over the router...space limited so it's the only way I can

The new smarthub has an NBK fitted cat5e* extension run around the top of the skirting board...past a PC, above an 8 way power strip, underneath mains sockets to where it lives...but again needs must :| (although that'll be shortened a couple of feet when i get a different 2 gang wall socket and telephone module!)

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 09-Sep-16 23:52:02
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[re: ukhardy07] [link to this post]
 
On ADSLx, on a fairly new master > 8 metre wire to gable junction > new drop wire to pole, I bought an ADSL Nation XTE-5 and one of their better quality ADSL cables hoping to improve my ~5Mbps connection to O2 LLU.

At the time I was using a dangly filter, one of 8 or 10 from many router supplies, and one of the associated DSL cables. I was able to test exhaustively as on O2 LLU DLM was not enabled after the initial few days.

By exhaustively I mean methodically changing the filters with the same DSL cable, then with the top one changing the DSL cable.

I then compared this result with the XTE-5 plus posh DSL cable, and XTE-5 with all DSL cables.

I did this twice on different days.

The XTE-5 and posh cable have been in their received packaging in a drawer ever since. It wasn't worth the hassle and possible cost of returning them for a refund. I used the best cable/dangly combo until I got the VDSL2 interstitial filter for FTTC and IIRC used the HG612 DSL cable. I consistently got 170-200kbps better on most combos. A few were below the ADSL Nation variants.

In particular the posh DSL cable was a liability.

Very near by is the DECT phone base station. the power for that is from a 4-way socket on something like a 10m lead from the mains socket, and the modem is plugged into another 4-way fed from the first. Printer and shredder permanently lugged into the first, router into the second. Local laptop occasionally also into the second.

(Hmmm - what else is plugged in? IIRC I have two spare sockets, but that gives three).

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Standard User NBK
(experienced) Sat 10-Sep-16 11:31:52
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
wait so the posh cat5/6 cable had worse performance than the standard grey cable?

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Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Sat 10-Sep-16 12:15:15
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[re: NBK] [link to this post]
 
I guess by posh you mean ethernet? Ethernet cable performs differently to telephone cable on a telephone connection - figures.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 10-Sep-16 12:29:07
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[re: NBK] [link to this post]
 
I said "posh DSL cable". Not Cat5/6. I can't remember the ADSL Nation blurb, but it was supposed to be better than the ones normally received with modems and modem/routers.

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Standard User NBK
(experienced) Sat 10-Sep-16 12:36:16
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
i said cat5 because the current ADSLnation ones say it's to that standard

It's still surprising it would perform worse...strange

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Standard User NBK
(experienced) Sat 10-Sep-16 12:37:23
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[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
doesn't really figure when there's more twists to reduce crosstalk with decent solid copper wire...you'd expect less noise, the only thing I can think of why that shouldnt be the case is poor termination otherwise it doesnt make much sense

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Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Sat 10-Sep-16 14:41:01
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[re: NBK] [link to this post]
 
The twists aren't to reduce crosstalk, they are to enhance common mode rejection.
Standard User NBK
(experienced) Sat 10-Sep-16 15:36:42
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[re: BatBoy] [link to this post]
 
Twisted pair cabling is a type of wiring in which two conductors of a single circuit are twisted together for the purposes of canceling out electromagnetic interference (EMI) from external sources; for instance, electromagnetic radiation from unshielded twisted pair (UTP) cables, and crosstalk between neighboring pairs.


That's basically what I was taught when I was being trained for data cabling

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Standard User BatBoy
(sensei) Sat 10-Sep-16 15:48:49
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[re: NBK] [link to this post]
 
There's only one pair for a telephone
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