Backup modem

What do people think of this router as a replacement for the HG612 and using it as just a modem? Has anyone any experience of sync speeds with it?

Yes my main modem and good sync on my long line anyway, pushing 24 Mbps at 1375m

Thanks seems cheap enough and easy enough to configure.

If you are using this router in modem mode do you have to have a separate RJ45 cable for stats? I currently have a modem next to master socket downstairs and wireless router upstairs connected via cat5 cable and sockets. I don't want to run another cable for stats would the TP-Link Nano powerline Kit work instead of a cable?

As if by magic it has arrived, on a Sunday as well.

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/speedtest/results.html...

Lost a couple of meg because I don't know if it is tweakable but it seems stable enough on ADSL.

Usually run it in router mode

Powerline kit will work, but for stability Ethernet would be better.

On the stats, if your router will lets you route the modems LAN range I think you can see the router on its default IP address

How would I configure that?

Currently modem is sitting at 192.168.1.250, router DHCP is 192.168.1.2 to 192.168.1.245 and router is at 192.168.1.1. My machines get DHCP and the router has a static routes list but the gateway is for each machine. Currently I have my laptop downstairs connected to port 1 of the modem and port 4 is the WAN and can access stats that way but none of the other machines behind the router can see the modem.

First stage is to make sure the modem and router are not using the same IP ranges

What would you suggest I make the modem IP address?

Not in this case Andrew:).

To get the stats from the modem you have them on the same subnet, bearing in mind the TP-Link will be in bridge mode. By connecting "modem" Lan 2 to any any Ethernet socket on the router you access it just like anything else on the Lan. It's the standard way we set up the HG612 with whatever router people are using.

Telnet and GUI access only.

Tim's powerline link will be purely to make that link. No serious traffic.

Found this.

Geekdom.

What makes that solution difficult is the fact I cant telnet into my DSL-N55U although it has a static route table in the GUI I have no idea what to put in it.

If you are feeding the ASUS Wan port from a modem, the stats are in the modem. Not the ASUS.

Had over looked the option to use a LAN2

How badly do Powerline adapters affect VDSL anyone know, anyone any experience as I plan to have a powerline adapter next to the modem? I can keep them as spares as they were only £12.50 but might need another solution if sync drops with them plugged in.

Some say no effect, others say an effect but never quantified

Apparently, the adapters can be configured to connect wirelessly to the router, might this be a better method of getting the modem's stats on the network?

According to a Sky Director the powerline must be at least 2m or more away from the modem and master socket for no interference.

If you need to monitor stats all the time then yes, personally so long as its working I've got lots of other things to do

Cheers.

No effect on sync but things such as
1. Apple TV screen mirroring - useless over 5ghz wifi from powerline (full bars) - fine with 1 bar 5ghz from main router.
2. Gaming suffered A LOT over powerline despite speeds appearing fast
3. Single threaded downloads we're always poor
4. Reliability - almost unnoticeable drop outs which would disconnect some services

Well hopefully only using it for modem stats so won't notice any of those side effects you have listed.

Cheers for that.

I would be very cautious about using power line adapters, they are known to generate interference at the frequencies used by the VDSL2 connection.

How about a much simpler solution provided that your existing Ethernet cable is the normal 4 pair type you can use this to provide 2 100Mbit connections as each one uses 2 pairs. So all you need is 4 RJ45 connectors and a crimp tool then check the RJ45 ethernet wiring diagram to use the appropriate pairs at each end of the cable.

You can get ready made adapters called cable economisers but these seem to have female RJ45 sockets so extra patch cables and couplers are needed to connect to the modem/router etc.

Edited by Realalemadrid (Wed 22-Mar-17 08:52:26)

It is known that in some cases that Powerline causes interference. There are also many cases where there is no tangible effect on broadband from using them. I used some for years and it had no effect on my sync at all. Powerline may be a perfectly adequate solution for the requirement - the only way to know if it has any effect would be to try it.

Where are these economisers available, currently I have 2 RJ45 sockets fitted to the cable and a patch lead to a switch and the modem at the other end, I dont really want to mess around with the cable the economisers maybe a much more elegant solution.

Edit found some on ebay with 2 female sockets and a male plug sold as a pair, worth a try.

Edited by Banger (Wed 22-Mar-17 14:42:58)

I found quite a few by googling for "cat5 splitter".

Thats what I did and found these.

Look like the right sort of things. We used to use them in a corporate network years ago to avoid running additional cables and as long as you don't need gigabit then they should work just fine.

I have sussed it. Am able to get stats over wireless. The way I did it was to leave the modem in bridge mode and enable wireless. Then attach a wireless adapter to my main PC and set static addressing on it, and voila, access to 192.168.1.250 through wireless and the admin page. No need for splitters or powerline.

Now if only I could get routerstats or routerstats lite to work. I can telnet in but when I try all the TP-link models in lite I get

Wed 22 Mar 2017 19:55:41 HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden
Wed 22 Mar 2017 19:55:41 HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden

Routerstats full wont login at all what am I missing?

TP-Links telnet is a very cut down version.

Have a read of http://forum.kitz.co.uk/index.php/topic,17108.msg315...

use the just telnet.zip on the kitz post; it will enable a full proper telnet (on another port)

DSLstats and hg612 stats will then work with this modem/router (and I presume routerstats if you can change the telnet port)

Ian

Yes I have read that thread several times and it involves a hacked configuration file which I am not keen on. I can telnet in ok thats not the problem its collecting the data that is.

Can you hack your own config?

Just add that "telnetd" to the Device info tag.

Ian

Ok I can now telnet into the shell at port 1023 after uploading the telnetd hacked file but I am stuck on how to configure DSLStats as it just comes back timeout waiting for stats.

Think I have worked it out by re-reading the thread the command is xdslctl info --show. Getting stats now in DSLStats.

DSLStats now been collecting data for 10 hours although it was initially set to sample every 30 seconds, have changed that to 60 seconds sampling rate as it was missing the odd sample.

Amazed at the amount of configuration options DSLStats has including SNRM tweak. Someone must have put a lot of work into programming such a wonderful stats monitor.

Had a bit of a problem tonight. DSLStats started saying unable to login to modem. So I opened cmd prompt and telnet in after stopping DSLStats, the prompt response was very slow. I checked my wireless and it was at 13mbps.

So I am not sure if it was slow wireless as a local Sky Box had occupied channel 11, the router was on channel 10. So changed channel but had to reboot the router as the prompt was still slow. I added a secondary address to the LAN just in case it was because I was opening web page on the same IP.

Seems ok now but will run for a few days see if it falls over again. Not sure if it was just the wireless slow down or the router cant cope with being asked for stats so many times. Anyone else seen this?