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Standard User Michael_Chare
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 11-Dec-18 10:44:42
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Do you run any additional software on pfSense such as Suricata?

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Standard User Nitro93
(regular) Tue 11-Dec-18 17:52:29
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Re: The best Modem or Modem/Router for FTTC on a Huawei Cab


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Thank you all for your help - Billion 8800NL R2 it is!

Out of curiosity, did anyone see a lift in their sync speed as a result of a shift over to this or remained the same?

Cheers!
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(deleted) Tue 11-Dec-18 18:51:03
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Don't get the R2! It has a poor chipset, as I said in a previous post.


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Standard User Nitro93
(regular) Tue 11-Dec-18 19:41:22
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In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:
Don't get the R2! It has a poor chipset, as I said in a previous post.


Haven't ordered yet! Could you point me in the direction of the R1? I can only see R2's around.

Cheers!
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 11-Dec-18 21:39:28
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Phew! The R1 is white, whereas the R2 is black and has antennas.
Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Wed 12-Dec-18 14:10:07
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In reply to a post by Nitro93:
In reply to a post by WilliamGrimsley:
Don't get the R2! It has a poor chipset, as I said in a previous post.


Haven't ordered yet! Could you point me in the direction of the R1? I can only see R2's around.

Cheers!


The R1 hasn't been made for some time. Finding a new example at a decent price won't be easy.

Anything with a BCM63168 that suits your needs. Googling BCM63168 will result in a wiki with many devices, and results with many more.
The newer BCM63138 is also excellent, but probably in less models and perhaps some pricier models.
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(deleted) Wed 12-Dec-18 15:50:34
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Hi

No not running that on the pfSense box.

Regards

Phil
Standard User steve195527
(learned) Wed 12-Dec-18 18:41:59
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the 8800nl r2 isn't as bad as some make out,even if its chipset isn't as "good" as the earlier 8800r1, its pretty(very!) stable but don't use the later 252 firmware of any version the 2.50a.d13 is best/most stable the Zyxel VMG3925-B10B is also pretty good and is native ipv6 fully compatible unlike a fair few others that aren't and will only use teredo tunnelling(netgear d7000 and lots of other netgear kit)
if the billion and the zyxel were as bad as some say I doubt idnet (billion) or A+A(zyxel) would supply them,as last thing either of those isps would want is anything unreliable

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Standard User j0hn83
(experienced) Thu 13-Dec-18 15:01:51
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In reply to a post by steve195527:
the 8800nl r2 isn't as bad as some make out,even if its chipset isn't as "good" as the earlier 8800r1, its pretty(very!) stable but don't use the later 252 firmware of any version the 2.50a.d13 is best/most stable the Zyxel VMG3925-B10B is also pretty good and is native ipv6 fully compatible unlike a fair few others that aren't and will only use teredo tunnelling(netgear d7000 and lots of other netgear kit)
if the billion and the zyxel were as bad as some say I doubt idnet (billion) or A+A(zyxel) would supply them,as last thing either of those isps would want is anything unreliable


It's absolutely relevant to point out that the Billion 8800NL R2 uses a BCM63381.
The 3rd number in bold shows this is 1 of Broadcoms budget chipsets.

The Billion 8800NL R1 has a BCM63168 which is 1 of the best (THE best in my opinion) performing Broadcom xDSL chipsets.

You may be happy with your purchase, but I strongly advise against anyone who hasn't already purchased an 8800NL R2 from doing so.

I think it's a deplorable tactic by a company to release a product with quality components, get very positive reviews, then release an inferior version under the same model.

Bait and switch. Kingston SSD's got a horrible reputation for just this.

Zyxel walk this tight rope with their VMG1312-B10(A/D) models but at least it's a change of model number that's visible. Still poor practice.
Standard User steve195527
(learned) Thu 13-Dec-18 22:11:56
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most companies mk2 versions are usually released either as a purely cosmetic exercise where no actual performance increase is implemented or are introduced to reduce costs and therefore sometimes performance degrades, as for cost of electronic components being directly proportional to the performance doesn't always hold true:- originally MOS FET output devices for amplifiers were expensive but performed poorly compared to later far cheaper ones, development can make budget components of a later generation equally as good or even better than more expensive components a generation or two earlier
I have used the 8800nlr2 so can speak from experience that it is a very stable piece of kit which is one of the most important criteria for a lot of users,one that gives a few mb more or wifi that spans miles may be better from a purely performance viewpoint but if that performance is at the expense of stability then it's not really worth it
the 8800nlr2 can be picked up for just over £60 so its a budget chip in a budget priced router that actually works pretty well, if someone wants the r1 version probably 2nd hand is only way to go with no warranty(probably) and seem to be expensive nowadays,I just wonder what you expect for the price?
Even the billion techs acknowledge it is a budget product well ones I have spoken to do

Edited by steve195527 (Thu 13-Dec-18 22:14:04)

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