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Standard User stevewhits
(member) Thu 18-Jul-19 19:22:24
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Slow Speed - Router or Modem


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I have 40mbps BB with Plusnet and recently noticed my download speed has dropped to about 8mbps to 10 mbps. I went through some fault finding with PN last night and they said everything appeared normal. Anyway my setup is via an openreach modem and an ASUS RT-N66U router.

To eliminate the hardware before getting the engineer out I've plugged in an old BT Homehub 5 and am now getting 35mbps which suggests either the modem or router are at fault for the slow speed.

Can anyone suggest the best way to establish which is faulty without forking out for a new modem or router
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 18-Jul-19 20:01:42
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Can anyone suggest the best way to establish which is faulty without forking out for a new modem or router

Are you testing using an Ethernet connection from a computer to either router? This stops any WiFi issues affecting tests.

You can use an openreach modem with the Homehub 5, connect it to the red WAN port, and then try testing again - but one of the reasons the Hub 5 arrived was to allow openreach to stop supplying modems.

The problem with the modem (either a Huawei or an ECI) is the lack of statistics from it about the line performance. If you have a Huawei one it can be "hacked" but the ECI is much harder.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Thu 18-Jul-19 20:25:08
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One thing that sometimes works is a factory reset on the modem. If there's been any unusual electrical stuff around, like a nearby thunderstorm the runtime version of the firmware can get corrupted.

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Standard User stevewhits
(member) Thu 18-Jul-19 20:43:53
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Thanks, I didn't realise I could use the Openreach modem with the BT hub. I've plugged that in and it's working fine. I just need to find out why my speed drops using the router now
Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Fri 19-Jul-19 14:34:13
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That would be seriously impressive. Could you describe how this new physics works?

An orders of magnitude more likely explanation if a reset fixes things is that the router was hacked and setting back to factory defaults removed the hack. Time to make sure you are on the latest firmware me thinks.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 19-Jul-19 14:40:31
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One thing that sometimes works is a factory reset on the modem. If there's been any unusual electrical stuff around, like a nearby thunderstorm the runtime version of the firmware can get corrupted.

You're assuming the software is copied from an EEPROM into RAM to run, and that is how things worked a while ago, when the reading speed of EEPROMs was too slow to execute from.

With Flash memory this is no longer the case. You can boot/run directly from the flash storage, with temporary files in a ram.

If "the runtime version of the firmware" was corrupt, a simple power cycle would resolve.

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Administrator MrSaffron
(staff) Fri 19-Jul-19 15:11:52
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A simple one people have missed so far...speeds of 8 to 10 Mbps...has the original poster checked the link speeds for the various Ethernet connections?

e.g. has PC decided to only connect at 10 Mbps over its Ethernet cable, or maybe the link cable between Asus and modem

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 19-Jul-19 17:37:34
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That would be seriously impressive. Could you describe how this new physics works?

An orders of magnitude more likely explanation if a reset fixes things is that the router was hacked and setting back to factory defaults removed the hack. Time to make sure you are on the latest firmware me thinks.
You are obsessed with modem hacking.

How this corruption occurs I do not know at the detailed level, but it is a fact it used to happen. Also see my next post in the thread, where the explanation may lie, and understandably so.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Fri 19-Jul-19 17:38:58
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
One thing that sometimes works is a factory reset on the modem. If there's been any unusual electrical stuff around, like a nearby thunderstorm the runtime version of the firmware can get corrupted.

You're assuming the software is copied from an EEPROM into RAM to run, and that is how things worked a while ago, when the reading speed of EEPROMs was too slow to execute from.

With Flash memory this is no longer the case. You can boot/run directly from the flash storage, with temporary files in a ram.

If "the runtime version of the firmware" was corrupt, a simple power cycle would resolve.
Absolutely correct. I was making that assumption. Thanks for the correction smile.

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Standard User stevewhits
(member) Sat 20-Jul-19 07:27:38
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Testing was plugged into test socket with Ethernet cables. Iím going to carry out a factory reset but if that doesnít work itís a new router. Bit of anecdotal evidence when searching that this isnít an isolated issue with this router.
Standard User stevewhits
(member) Mon 22-Jul-19 09:07:02
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Update: After a weekend away I resorted to a factory reset last night and it's now back to normal.

Bit strange really as I never altered any of the settings when I set it up but anyway it seems to be OK.

I'll continue to monitor it but hopefully I don't need a new router smile
Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Mon 22-Jul-19 10:27:26
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You are obsessed with modem hacking.

How this corruption occurs I do not know at the detailed level, but it is a fact it used to happen. Also see my next post in the thread, where the explanation may lie, and understandably so.


The thing is there is almost certainly no corruption of the firmware. The idea that nearby electrical activity could cause a flash cell to be changed is utterly preposterous and assumes the introduction of new Nobel prize winning physics.

What is more likely is a consumer grade router that has likely not had it's firmware upgraded which shows signs of unexplained slow downs after been on for a period of time is being repeatedly hacked. I would note this was the first clue that in one of my cases there was a hack going on. Router was fine at first, but after a varying amount of time (hours to days) the throughput became significantly lower than the sync speed.

Basically it is very difficult to change the flash firmware file on these routers with a hack as you have to upload an entirely new firmware file. You can't just change or add files in place. This is entirely unlike a standard computer.

On the other hand most routers go weeks if not months between reboots, so it is not worth the effort to make the hack be able to survive a reboot, just move on to a new router. Consequently most hacks on routers do not survive a reboot.

Note to actually determine if there is a problem you would need to get a command prompt on the router and for many routers this is not very easy anyway, unless you are into hacking it of course but that requires knowing the vulnerability in the first place.
Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Mon 22-Jul-19 10:29:14
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Testing was plugged into test socket with Ethernet cables. Iím going to carry out a factory reset but if that doesnít work itís a new router. Bit of anecdotal evidence when searching that this isnít an isolated issue with this router.


Or the router has firmware with a vulnerability, and is getting hacked and then upstream bandwidth being used for nefarious activities.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Mon 22-Jul-19 10:39:09
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See this post.

Experience can often be more useful than a PhD in balderdash.

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Standard User gary333
(regular) Mon 22-Jul-19 12:52:43
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What do you mean by hacked? I am sure I asked this on another thread but got no answer. Why would a 'hacked' router slow down, and why do you think this is this common?

It's far, far, far more likely that slow downs are due to the amount of time the device has been turned on. You only have to look at the Superhubs 1 & 2 to see that if you didn't reboot them every couple of weeks many of them slowed to a crawl. Are we to assume this was hackers?

In tandem with the above, if the device has had lots of different devices connected it can slow down (or in the case of a few older Netgear routers we have for guest wifi at work) just stop completely and ignore any request, even a local one to the admin page - meaning someone going to the comms room to do a physical reset.
Standard User broadband66
(knowledge is power) Tue 23-Jul-19 17:42:57
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As per earlier post by jabuzzard "Consequently most hacks on routers do not survive a reboot."

So take his expert advise and just reboot. Will fix the issue.

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 23-Jul-19 23:17:00
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In reply to a post by jabuzzard:
In reply to a post by stevewhits:
Testing was plugged into test socket with Ethernet cables. Iím going to carry out a factory reset but if that doesnít work itís a new router. Bit of anecdotal evidence when searching that this isnít an isolated issue with this router.


Or the router has firmware with a vulnerability, and is getting hacked and then upstream bandwidth being used for nefarious activities.


As unlikely a possibility as the firmware flash corruption you mocked.

It's simple really.
Asus are useless at making firmware.

It's recommended to reset to factory default configuration when the firmware is updated on Asus routers.
It's definitely good practice when they release a new branch, upgrading from 382.xx you 384.xx for example.

Any time such issues arise on Asus routers a factory reset/restoring default config usually fixes things.
Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Wed 24-Jul-19 11:51:47
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If they are that bad at making firmware then the router will be an unsecure hunk of junk.

How are you determining the difference between a compromised router and other firmware issues? Especially given resetting things back to default will generally remove the compromise temporarily?
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(staff) Wed 24-Jul-19 12:06:44
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Do Asus routers have a documented compromise that can be corrected by a reset?
Has Asus not produced updated firmware to block the compromise?

If no to both of those, are you suggesting that there is an unknown hack going on with Asus routers?

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Standard User jabuzzard
(member) Wed 24-Jul-19 12:13:43
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What do you mean by hacked? I am sure I asked this on another thread but got no answer. Why would a 'hacked' router slow down, and why do you think this is this common?


A compromised router would appear to slow down because the upstream bandwidth is being used for nefarious activities. Might be as simple as a distributed denial of service on some target. It could be a hacker using the router to go after a high value target; if you want to hack the Pentagon first compromise someone else's router and go from there. Then the police come knocking on someone else's door. Alternatively they could just be using your router as a proxy for illegal content - anything form movie downloads to child pornography. Again the police are going to come knocking on someone else's door rather than theirs. If they wipe the logs of the router when they are finished it then becomes very very hard to trace. For extra safety string a few compromised routers together.

I think it is common because there are millions of devices out there not getting security updates. If you have not had a security update in a couple of years then it is almost certain there are vulnerabilities in your device.

There is a possibility that badly written software could over time consume more and more resources on the device. However if the manufacturer can't fix that then they are unlikely to be able to fix security vulnerabilities, and the device is junk anyway and you are best getting replacing it with something that does not need restarting every few days or more frequent.

In my personal experience that has not been the case however. The routers where being compromised repeatedly even though they where not on static IP addresses. I do accept that the vast majority of people would be unable to make this determination though as they would lack the skill set required.

Basically all you need to do is read through the CERT vulnerabilities list for the last few years, pick one and test it against the router model of your choice. Then head over to Shodan and do a quick search and start compromising devices smile

I would add that consumer grade routers tend to be a low priority for security researchers because few if any vendors offer bug bounties. Heck most of them won't even acknowledge there is a problem with their firmware let alone issue an update. That said from time to time you will see long lists of router models with vulnerabilities that never get addressed by the vendors.
Standard User gary333
(regular) Wed 24-Jul-19 12:57:49
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I am not sure your conclusion that it's the router is logical or correct.

Everything I have read over the years suggests that it's the machines (PC's) who hackers take over. Never heard of any mainstream examples where people hack the router and utilise this on it's own for mischief

Most hacks are via dodgy software being installed on machines that open up the firewall to the hackers. Modem's / routers, are setup to block almost all ports, and are near enough always setup to restrict remotely accessing the admin controls.

The attack surface is usually due to user behaviour. This could be by installing software that asks for more access to the WAN than needed / badly coded, uPNP busting holes through firewall or maliciious coding via bobbytrapped programs.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(knowledge is power) Wed 24-Jul-19 14:09:19
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Hi
If you know for a fact itís common to find hacked/compromised consumer routers everywhere then can you please email Tim Higgins @smallnetbuilder.com with your proof and Iím sure heíll investigate further & advise folks accordingly. Otherwise youíre spouting nonsense.
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Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 25-Jul-19 09:54:14
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Try googling for home router hacks - here is the first one that came up when I did. And another.
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(staff) Thu 25-Jul-19 10:10:55
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300,000 out of how many in use?

To an individual 300,000 sounds a massive amount, but given the number of routers in use in the UK alone it is a small amount.

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Standard User GonePostal
(member) Thu 25-Jul-19 12:05:39
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Putting "Security researchers from Team Cymru" into a search engine brings up a US company specialising in internet threats and internet security. If it is the same Team Cymru as the Panda report references then an even larger pool from which the 300,000 estimate has been drawn.

Not trying to say there is no problem but it always helps to know the context to get the right perspective.

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Standard User longedge
(experienced) Thu 25-Jul-19 12:36:33
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Just 1 was too many for me when my Netgear R5250 (now lying somewhere in the loft) got invaded 8^)
Standard User ian72
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Thu 25-Jul-19 12:43:14
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Just providing some of the evidence that was requested - some routers have been hacked and used for nefarious purposes, but I am not a proponent of this being all doom and gloom.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 26-Jul-19 15:58:31
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300,000 out of how many in use? To an individual 300,000 sounds a massive amount, but given the number of routers in use in the UK alone it is a small amount.


If router vendors (netgear, dlink, asus, etc) all had automatic, unattended, firmware updates - this would have been less of an issue.

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(staff) Fri 26-Jul-19 17:46:46
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But then we'd be discussing vulnerabilities exposed via the automatic update processes.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Fri 26-Jul-19 18:24:47
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But then we'd be discussing vulnerabilities exposed via the automatic update processes.

which hopefully could be patched.... automatically!

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Standard User stevewhits
(member) Sat 27-Jul-19 09:56:25
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I've sorted this out now thanks to everyone that replied.

The issue was simply due to my router not having a powerful enough processor which killed the speed.

Installing the VPN directly onto the firestick solved the issue.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 27-Jul-19 11:15:37
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Thatís one weíll need to remember, so thanks for that post.

But I just looked up Firestick, (Amazon Fire Stick?), and am a bit confused about installing a VPN on one. (Looked up a bit more).

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Standard User gmangt4
(regular) Sat 27-Jul-19 11:24:58
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As its based on Android it has some sort of App store or can sideload Android APK's, folks use VPN on them for USA Netflix, Kodi, etc or for any sort of Region or ISP block on what their trying to view.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 27-Jul-19 11:50:20
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As its based on Android it has some sort of App store or can sideload Android APK's, folks use VPN on them for USA Netflix, Kodi, etc or for any sort of Region or ISP block on what their trying to view.


It runs Amazon's FireOS which is the same as the Amazon Fire tablets. This is based on the open source AOSP so doesn't include any of Google's propitiatory components (e.g. maps, or Play Store). So some APKs fail expecting to find function calls that are part of the Google bit. Not a problem for a network app such as VPN, but an issue for some apps on the tablets.

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Standard User jabuzzard
(committed) Sat 27-Jul-19 20:56:48
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Do Asus routers have a documented compromise that can be corrected by a reset? Has Asus not produced updated firmware to block the compromise?


Not that I am aware of, but many routers do due to the way the firmware image is stored in the flash. Asus do however have routers that have known vulnerabilities for which there are no firmware updates.

If no to both of those, are you suggesting that there is an unknown hack going on with Asus routers?


It is highly likely in my view. There was no listed vulnerability for one of the routers that was been "hacked" that I personally dealt with. It however was undeniably being hacked I could see the rouge processes and traffic after getting a shell on the router.

Like I said elsewhere if you wish to engage in nefarious activities the obvious and relatively trivial step (to someone skilled) is to compromise a vulnerable home router out on the internet and use that as a jump box. Ideally you want a whole slew of them that you use just the once to make it harder to trace the activity back to you.

Security researchers however are mostly making a living from bug bounties (quite hansom livings too by all accounts). However there are no bug bounties for finding vulnerabilities in SOHO routers. If you read up on the cases where a security researcher does find a bug, most times the manufactures are not interested. The models are on the market for a couple of years tops after which they become abandonware and the manufacture stops releasing any updates. Hurts their business model of you buying a new router.
Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Sat 27-Jul-19 21:26:03
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The models are on the market for a couple of years tops after which they become abandonware and the manufacture stops releasing any updates. Hurts their business model of you buying a new router.
The second sentence there completely contradicts your earlier arguments, in that if due to the manufacturers not releasing updates the users rush out and buy new routers there wouldn't be any old ones around to compromise.

Conversely, if your earlier arguments are correct and thousands upon thousands of customers are continuing to use the old routers, these manufacturers' business models are unsustainable and they would all have ceased to exist by now.

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Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 27-Jul-19 21:44:14
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Many routers have third party firmware. ASUS for example has Merlin. Not the DSL models though as they are limited, and donít support shell access.

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Standard User gmangt4
(regular) Sat 27-Jul-19 22:03:08
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There is a Merlin Fork for Asus DSL-AC68U, its on SNB.
Standard User baby_frogmella
(knowledge is power) Sun 28-Jul-19 08:55:44
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There is a Merlin Fork for Asus DSL-AC68U, its on SNB.


It should be a criminal offence to use that modem/router shocked

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Standard User gmangt4
(regular) Sun 28-Jul-19 09:21:29
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I agree,I would use a separate modem with them, I wasn't recommending it, just saying that there are 3rd party firmwares out there for the Asus DSL branch.
Standard User jchamier
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sun 28-Jul-19 10:16:20
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In reply to a post by gmangt4:
There is a Merlin Fork for Asus DSL-AC68U, its on SNB.

Interesting. Wonder if it adds shell access, the factory doesn't have. Not a router I'd use on VDSL (FTTC) anyway!

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Standard User j0hn83
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 29-Jul-19 17:23:26
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There is a Merlin Fork for Asus DSL-AC68U, its on SNB.


No special fork needed.

The standard Merlin firmware for the RT-AC68U installs and runs on the DSL-AC68U.
It basically turns it in to an RT model.

Merlin specifically states he does not support the DSL-AC68U (or any DSL model) and using his firmware on them is against his and Asus t&c's.

Edited by j0hn83 (Mon 29-Jul-19 17:26:30)

Standard User gmangt4
(regular) Mon 29-Jul-19 21:08:45
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[re: j0hn83] [link to this post]
 
Its by a User called GNUton and its a 15 page thread that i've no interest in reading but the thread is titled "AsusWrt Merlin builds for DSL routers" and it uses the onboard modem by the looks of the first page.

Edited by gmangt4 (Mon 29-Jul-19 21:10:32)

Standard User jabuzzard
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How about 200 million devices then. Is that enough?

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/...
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Never have said there are not vulnerabilities out there, just bouncing back against the 'it is all a disaster' image some are trying to portray.

On the latest one - the Apple Airport Extreme and Linksys WRT54G (ancient now) are the two devices of note for consumer level.

Also looks like patching for this latest one has got underway.

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Standard User RobertoS
(elder) Tue 30-Jul-19 13:07:07
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In reply to a post by MrSaffron:
Also looks like patching for this latest one has got underway.
And all certified versions don't suffer from the vulnerability anyway. The article itself includes:-
None of the vulnerabilities affects the most recent version of VxWorksówhich was released last weekóor any of the certified versions of the OS, including VxWorks 653 or VxWorks Cert Edition.
and
In a post published Monday, Arlen Baker, chief security architect of VxWorks-maker Wind River, wrote:
The latest release of VxWorks is not affected by the Urgent/11 vulnerability, nor are any of Wind Riverís safety-critical products that are designed for safety certification, such as VxWorks 653 and VxWorks Cert Edition used in critical infrastructure.


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