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Standard User ukfsn
(knowledge is power) Fri 18-Oct-13 20:01:00
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Re: UKFSN FTTC upgrade


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[cough]
BT Infinity is an 18-month minimum term, as are (I think) all of the biggies.


Thank you for the correct. I was going from memory and had not checked BT recently.

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Isn't it Openreach impose the 12-month term, and BTW just fall in with that? There's nothing to stop even BT Wholesale ISPs selling shorter terms.


It's the same company. BT Openreach and BT Wholesale are both BT Plc.

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Standard User 4M2
(knowledge is power) Fri 18-Oct-13 20:14:50
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Re: UKFSN FTTC upgrade


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Yes, for example, looks like it would be £35.99 for "family unlimited" + £3.90 for "profile 3" 80/20 = £39.89 per month (and some uncertainty about the migration/activation charge of £99 - probably if migrating from LLU or cable?)


That is the correct monthly price.

The activation fee is zero at the moment. That includes migration from LLU.


Thanks for the info smile

Will check again after 25th Oct...
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 18-Oct-13 22:17:26
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Re: UKFSN FTTC upgrade


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Thank you for the correct. I was going from memory and had not checked BT recently.
Umm Jason. It never was two years. It's the 12 months rather than 18 on Infinity 1 that is new.
Isn't it Openreach impose the 12-month term, and BTW just fall in with that? There's nothing to stop even BT Wholesale ISPs selling shorter terms.
It's the same company. BT Openreach and BT Wholesale are both BT Plc.
Errr - not that simple, as you well know. Again, you are saying things that you should not - it's difficult enough explaining to the na´ve that they aren't, without you, an ISP, saying it for google to pick up frown.

There is no legal compulsion on BT Wholesale to impose a 12-month term on its customers, i.e. the CPs, but it is perfectly reasonable for Group policy to dictate it.

Similarly, whatever terms BT Wholesale have for their customers, ISPs such as Entanet, A & A, Zen or IDNet could quite legitimately run FTTC products on monthly rather than 12-month terms. It's just a commercial issue. The fact that a PlusNet customer can exit at month 2 of 18 on vastly reduced terms illustrates this, which is why I posted it.

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Standard User sthen
(committed) Sat 19-Oct-13 10:03:56
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Re: UKFSN FTTC upgrade


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Similarly, whatever terms BT Wholesale have for their customers, ISPs such as Entanet, A & A, Zen or IDNet could quite legitimately run FTTC products on monthly rather than 12-month terms. It's just a commercial issue. The fact that a PlusNet customer can exit at month 2 of 18 on vastly reduced terms illustrates this, which is why I posted it.


While the ISP are on 12 month terms with BT for the connection itself, the ISP doesn't have to pass this on, and if that line is no longer used they won't be paying for bandwidth used on it (BT bandwidth charges are the most expensive part for many connections). As further illustration, for Home::1 A & A have a 6-month minimum which then moves over to a rolling monthly contract (and unlike PlusNet they aren't even owned by BT smile)
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 19-Oct-13 11:16:43
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Re: UKFSN FTTC upgrade


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There is no bandwidth charge for the connection to the exchange. The charge is at the MSIL for the combined traffic through it. A single user disappearing is unlikely to have a significant effect there smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk | Domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost.
Connection - Plusnet UnLim Fibre (FTTC). Sync ~ 55.8/14.5Mbps @ 600m. - BQM

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Standard User Lethe
(fountain of knowledge) Thu 24-Oct-13 08:42:59
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Well, engineers been and gone - took about 15 minutes, and all works perfectly.

Took me about 3 minutes to reconfigure my router, and connection is great smile

Nick
Standard User Kimi
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Sat 26-Oct-13 21:12:25
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lol
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