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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 10:39:14
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I quite agree, also all profits should be reinvested back into the network
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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 10:39:14
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Dream on it'll never happen.

In reality what you are describing is basically Openreach. You have to try and remember that BT retail and BT Openreach are (meant to be) independent. But they are dragging their heals with innovation, coverage and price. If VM opened up their network then there would be no need for NGA network duplication in cabled areas. But that too will never happen.

Sky really need to announce something soon or risk loosing customers. They must get Anytime+ working over FTTC, which could be the reason for delaying (just speculation though).
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(sensei) Sun 23-Jan-11 10:51:55
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They are small local schemes which probably would not work

South Yorks Digital Region is not small.

Phil

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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 10:57:52
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In reply to a post by Bob_s2:
What I think is need is a totally independent Fibre Local loop. The problem at present is BT own the local loop. The regulator is doing its best to open it up but as BT own it they are going to be keen to keep competition out.


Not really. Sky, etc, have sunk all this money into their own LLU equipment, FTTC makes it mostly redundant so there' s some reluctance to start using it.

Not to mention that most users of Sky use it because it's cheap and unlimited, FTTC increases the headline price and threatens the unlimited status of the product.
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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 11:11:34
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Yes but BT Openreach is not really seperate from BT. It operates as an internal business unit of BT and claims to operate at arms length but there is no way of knowing. All the indications are it still sees itself as BT and the regulator has to keep on at them. At minimum it should be operating as a wholly owned subsiderrt company of BT ie it would be a seperate company with its own p&l but wholly owned by BT Prefereably through it should be floated as a seperate company totaly independent of BT. It should also be blocked from serving end users as you would get the same conflict of interests that we have with BT.

If Openreach is a seperate company providing only the local loop network structure and maintaining it, it is in its best interest to get as many customers as possible using it unlike BT who want to resist that as far as possible
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Sun 23-Jan-11 12:58:09
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why is it not in BT's interest to have more use made of Openreach assets ?

Phil

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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 13:34:38
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So where exactly will the large investment required come from?
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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 23:06:46
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Errrrm:-
Exchanges
ready for trial:
Early 2010

Muswell Hill, London
Whitchurch, South Glamorgan
Glasgow, Halfway
.Mid 2010

More exchanges will be switched to enable further trials. Register today so we can let you know when they are being planned.
..

And you still haven't read your PM.
I registered then deregistered. There is NO FIBRE TO THE PREMISE HERE.

DON'T WANT OVAL.EVER. = GET O.UT.

RIP OFF!! mad
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(deleted) Sun 23-Jan-11 23:56:10
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NO SERVICE ATTAINABLE ON EITHER -OF MY 2 BONDED LINES.
NOT WANTED BY THIRD PARTY SALES.
I AM NOT TOUTING, AND DO NOT WISH TO BE TOUTED.
THANKS.
NOW PLEASE AWAY..FROST ABOUNDS - NO FTTP HERE.

JUST DON'T ATTEMPT IT HERE, SORRY! mad
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(deleted) Mon 24-Jan-11 00:00:12
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Sky have to move on one day and the trial is still happening. Once FTTC is nationwide, they will have no choice. The LLU gear will still be in use for the free customers.
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