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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 08-Feb-11 05:06:54
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Re: Virgin FTTC


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LOL bt investing in it's seriously outdated copper pair infrastructure, that is susceptible to crosstalk from neighbouring lines, it makes me laugh that they are only now starting to put fiber in and even where they do put it in,the failing copper to the home will still cause issues for those who currently have them,
Bt has made immense profits out of nothing for the past decade, the copper pair was designed for voice only and still is, in my local area also bt are only rolling out fttc in a small part of it, that being the most affluent part of it, when the price bt charge for line rental ect is the same regardless of where you live,
As for VM cable this is only available within a small area too,pointless and hopeless, until some one else gets in on the act ,which i have a feeling ain't gonna happen anytime soon
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 08-Feb-11 18:34:28
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Re: Virgin FTTC


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Well unless you are wanting the goverment to pay for a full FFTH network roleout then you can forget it happening soon.
BT has been upgrading its core network over the last few years before there fibre rollout began without that happening you would not be able to support a FFTC network that has to be economically viable to rolleout and any large investment takes years to make a return.

If the money is not there it wont happen and OFCOM is proably the biggest obsticale in the way of rolling out any future network.
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(deleted) Tue 08-Feb-11 19:30:02
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BT are light years behind most of the rest of the world. The BT network has suffered from a serious underinvestment for very many years.

The very imited FTTC rollout is already way behind schedule It has also suffered from poor and limited marketing again due to the conflict of interests within BT

A better way forward short of floating the local loop off would be for OFCOM to require a clear split between the local loop. BT wholesale & BT retail. This could be achieved by creating a wholly owned BT subsidery company say called BT Openreach. This would be only reponsible for the local loop. It would not provide end users services or maintain customer premises

This gives a more level playing field and removes the current conflict of interests


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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Feb-11 20:44:23
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BT are light years behind most of the rest of the world.


what utter tosh. You are Bob22 and I claim my £5.

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Standard User Rockh
(eat-sleep-adslguide) Tue 08-Feb-11 21:12:10
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My spidey sense has been saying that since I read his first few posts smile

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(deleted) Tue 08-Feb-11 22:50:05
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My spidey sense has been saying that since I read his first few posts smile
Was it the name that gave it away? I thought that was a big clue.
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(sensei) Tue 08-Feb-11 23:07:27
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The apparent density was at least as big a clue. I'm just waiting for powerline broadband to surface as the next great thing.

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Standard User dave2150
(experienced) Wed 09-Feb-11 02:24:41
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Re: Virgin FTTC


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LOL bt investing in it's seriously outdated copper pair infrastructure, that is susceptible to crosstalk from neighbouring lines, it makes me laugh that they are only now starting to put fiber in and even where they do put it in,the failing copper to the home will still cause issues for those who currently have them,
Bt has made immense profits out of nothing for the past decade, the copper pair was designed for voice only and still is, in my local area also bt are only rolling out fttc in a small part of it, that being the most affluent part of it, when the price bt charge for line rental ect is the same regardless of where you live,
As for VM cable this is only available within a small area too,pointless and hopeless, until some one else gets in on the act ,which i have a feeling ain't gonna happen anytime soon


In my area we are not lucky enough to have even copper into our houses. Aluminium, sigh.

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Standard User dave2150
(experienced) Wed 09-Feb-11 02:27:44
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BT are light years behind most of the rest of the world.


what utter tosh. You are Bob22 and I claim my £5.


Britain has one of the lowest average broadband speeds in the whole of europe, so he has a point.....

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(moderator) Wed 09-Feb-11 10:24:18
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Britain has one of the lowest average broadband speeds in the whole of europe,
I'd be interested to see some figures to back that up... Ofcom couldn't manage it. On headline speeds we're fairly typical, with the lowest proportion of really slow lines- see Ofcom report, pp310-311.

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