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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Mar-11 12:58:22
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Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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Is there one ? Seems that the market is small enough to make it comprehensible, at least for a while.

Phil

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Standard User orly
(experienced) Tue 08-Mar-11 13:59:23
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Re: Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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How do you mean "matrix guide"?

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 08-Mar-11 14:37:12
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He is on about having the numbers and figures guide in a simple way
so that people can understand it on what the isp have to offer


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Standard User orly
(experienced) Tue 08-Mar-11 14:41:08
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Re: Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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I'm kinda in the process of making this as a website but it's hard to do it simply as all the ISPs have numerous options and peculiarities.

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Mar-11 18:33:56
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Re: Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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that's where the skill comes in, probably don't cover all of the packages. ISPs & packages as columns, features and parameters as rows or vice versa.

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
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Standard User orly
(experienced) Tue 08-Mar-11 18:42:18
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Might be easier to do it in a spreadsheet than a website in this instance.

Peculiarities, as I mentioned, are people like AAISP who seem intent on having the most granular and excessively complicated system in the history of ISPs. Everything is seemingly optional.

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Mar-11 19:19:32
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Might be easier to do it in a spreadsheet than a website in this instance.
google docs then, same thing there !

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
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Standard User orly
(experienced) Tue 08-Mar-11 19:50:29
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Google Doc FTTC

As a first effort. Hopefully it's actually viewable. Feel free to point out any errors. Selected only some 40/10mbit services and tried to fill it in as accurately as I could (eg, calculating VAT on prices where applicable)

Prices will be higher for the ISPs where there is no information for hardware cost.

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 08-Mar-11 19:55:14
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Aquiss business peak hours is 8am to 8pm not untill midnight
Standard User orly
(experienced) Tue 08-Mar-11 19:56:57
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updated wink

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 08-Mar-11 20:00:48
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I see only one option for BT, but surely there at least two options ? The big difference being on one the upload is two meg, and on the other 10 meg.

No mention of the BT Business product ?

Standard User orly
(experienced) Tue 08-Mar-11 20:01:46
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Tried to only include 40/10 "home" products where possible to keep it reasonably concise and consistent.

Would be a mile long if i'd put in every option each ISP offers.

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User mrnelster
(member) Tue 08-Mar-11 20:08:41
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Re: Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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Peculiarities, as I mentioned, are people like AAISP who seem intent on having the most granular and excessively complicated system in the history of ISPs. Everything is seemingly optional.


That's what put me off AAISP. If you are a heavy business user it probably makes the best use of every MB especially if you regularly go over your allowance.

For a small business though with smaller usage, it feels overly complicated.

Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.
Standard User maniac886
(member) Tue 08-Mar-11 20:41:14
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Re: Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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TBBs fibre guide here?

Aquiss FTTC Business 90
300m to cabinet
37.7mbit down / 8 mbit up
Standard User deleted
(deleted) Tue 08-Mar-11 20:45:34
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You need to be able to filter the columns ideally. Can you do that online?
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Mar-11 21:49:57
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that kind of thing, but wider smile ie needs to say if uploads metered and when peak hours are.

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Mar-11 21:54:44
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Re: Simple matrix guide to FTTC ISP packages


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good start, with so many footnotes about peak times I would put a row or two in with them instead

also is upload included in GB allowance ?

might need rotating 90 degrees too.

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

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Edited by yarwell (Tue 08-Mar-11 21:56:51)

Anonymous
(Unregistered)Tue 08-Mar-11 22:14:03
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basic cost for bt is a min 18 month contract is 460.80
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Tue 08-Mar-11 22:48:33
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what is the practical implication of recent OFCOM rulings on early exit ?

Phil

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Standard User orly
(experienced) Wed 09-Mar-11 00:05:07
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Well it started off as an actual spreadsheet but google docs formats them into those footnotes. Not sure how to change it

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User yarwell
(sensei) Wed 09-Mar-11 00:09:00
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insert a row under Peak GB and put Peak times in it ?

Click on the row number, right mouse and select insert 1 above (or below)

Phil

MaxDSL - goes as fast as it can and doesn't read the line checker first.

MaxDSL diagnostics
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Standard User orly
(experienced) Wed 09-Mar-11 00:10:03
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if you have a google account I can add you as an editor I think, and then you can adjust as desired.

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BT Infinity 8th July 2010
Connected to: P23 Kilmaine Road, Bangor, BT19 6DT (NIBA)
600m (approx) to cabinet
25.5mbit down / 7.6mbit up

Previously:
BT Broadband, roughly 4mbit sync
4KM line / 54dB atten / 9dB SNR / Netgear DG834GT
Standard User nelix01
(member) Wed 09-Mar-11 09:16:20
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Getting a page not found error.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 09-Mar-11 12:38:22
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