Victoria Exchange.

Are not enabled for FTTC, nor have an enable date. So, this exchange serves 20k premises and businesses. So, what's an excuse NOT to enable them for FTTC? I'm stuck on my VM and I ALWAYS have high ping and constant throttling. If I could, I would've moved to BT infinity.

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So, this exchange serves 20k premises and businesses.

What exchange?

This exchange in Brum fits the description.

I would not say you are stuck on VM there are lots of options on your exchange with different providers.

The exchange is Victoria.

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I would not say you are stuck on VM there are lots of options on your exchange with different providers.

I would. My BT line are too long, I will get an average of 6Mbps if I used BT line. I don't want lesser speeds.

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The exchange is Victoria.

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I would not say you are stuck on VM there are lots of options on your exchange with different providers.

I would. My BT line are too long, I will get an average of 6Mbps if I used BT line. I don't want lesser speeds.

Is that g.dmt or ADSL2+?

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The exchange is Victoria.

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I would not say you are stuck on VM there are lots of options on your exchange with different providers.

I would. My BT line are too long, I will get an average of 6Mbps if I used BT line. I don't want lesser speeds.

Is that g.dmt or ADSL2+?

ADSL+2.

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The exchange is Victoria.

In reply to a post by vivaciti:

I would not say you are stuck on VM there are lots of options on your exchange with different providers.

I would. My BT line are too long, I will get an average of 6Mbps if I used BT line. I don't want lesser speeds.

Well you are where you are. I assume you are on VM cable, but where do you get the 6Mbps figure from?

If it is from line checkers/estimators there is a fair chance you would get far more. As you would then have several ISPs available who don't throttle, you might get better actual speeds a lot of the time, and decent latency as well.

There are even some who will provide a phone line on monthly contract, and lots that do the broadband monthly. Even some that give you a month money-back trial, which might apply to the phone service as well. That would need checking.

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The exchange is Victoria.

In reply to a post by vivaciti:

I would not say you are stuck on VM there are lots of options on your exchange with different providers.

I would. My BT line are too long, I will get an average of 6Mbps if I used BT line. I don't want lesser speeds.

Well you are where you are. I assume you are on VM cable, but where do you get the 6Mbps figure from?

If it is from line checkers/estimators there is a fair chance you would get far more. As you would then have several ISPs available who don't throttle, you might get better actual speeds a lot of the time, and decent latency as well.

There are even some who will provide a phone line on monthly contract, and lots that do the broadband monthly. Even some that give you a month money-back trial, which might apply to the phone service as well. That would need checking.

Yes, the ISP I'm looking at is BE Broadband. VM Cable has very high pings in games (Around 40-70 in quake3 based games). Problem is, I have Vonage phone and wireless that are cable only, it wouldn't work for BT line. Also my BT line is not connected so I would have to pay more than £100 for it to be connected. I have a friend who is 100 doors away from me (Same street but terraced house).

6Mbps figure came from line checkers/estimate from BT's wholesale and samknows.

Update: My friend gets 6Mbps from TalkTalk (Opal Telecom), exactly what the checker estimated.

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Problem is, I have Vonage phone and wireless that are cable only, it wouldn't work for BT line.

Not sure what you mean by that, but surely the Vonage box plugs into a router? A BT line based ISP would also use a similar router to the Virgin cable one. Or you can get a modem and router separately and create the same setup as Virgin cable's cable modem and router combination.

Also my BT line is not connected so I would have to pay more than £100 for it to be connected.

Try the post office, they can be cheaper and use a 1 month contract, rather than 12.

I have a friend who is 100 doors away from me (Same street but terraced house).
6Mbps figure came from line checkers/estimate from BT's wholesale and samknows.
Update: My friend gets 6Mbps from TalkTalk (Opal Telecom), exactly what the checker estimated.

No guarantee the wires run the same way from your friends house and yours.

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Problem is, I have Vonage phone and wireless that are cable only, it wouldn't work for BT line.

Not sure what you mean by that, but surely the Vonage box plugs into a router? A BT line based ISP would also use a similar router to the Virgin cable one. Or you can get a modem and router separately and create the same setup as Virgin cable's cable modem and router combination.

Also my BT line is not connected so I would have to pay more than £100 for it to be connected.

Try the post office, they can be cheaper and use a 1 month contract, rather than 12.

I have a friend who is 100 doors away from me (Same street but terraced house).
6Mbps figure came from line checkers/estimate from BT's wholesale and samknows.
Update: My friend gets 6Mbps from TalkTalk (Opal Telecom), exactly what the checker estimated.

No guarantee the wires run the same way from your friends house and yours.

No, since to a fact that I have a VM cable, I use Motorola V2142 modem for telephone and things like that. It is cable modem and it will NOT work with any modem that is not cable.

What? I don't get you there. I'm saying that if I decide to go with BE, I'll have to pay more than £100 for reconnection on my BT line. It has never used for more than 2 years.

Yes, no gurantee but BT line checker says we get the same speeds. Since it's copper to exchange and we're on same distance to there. We have similar house, so similar wiring.

As jchamier says, I don't know anything about Vonage but it would surprise me if it wouldn't work on a BT circuit.

Re a phone line install, BT will do it for £30:-

"A connection charge may apply for new lines (£30 for calls only customers paying the standard monthly line rental of £13.60 � reduced from £130, FREE for Broadband and Calls packages) Learn more

We will always use an existing line where possible or if you need an engineer visit we will offer you the closest available date.",

but of course you don't want BT Broadband to go with it.

Be would run on that line, or Be themselves do an install for £85.

100 doors sounds like quarter of a mile? That's a heck of a long way in broadband terms, especially if he is that distance further away on the BT cabling. TalkTalk is nothing to go by for connection speed, try his number into the Be checker. It may come back the same, but who knows.

What's the nearest address to you that you know the (BT line) number of?

You're wrong, I'm afraid. Jchamier is correct.

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If you mean in Birmingham, it's not just that exchange...but just about all of them.

Central will be done first later this year. The others probably earlier next.

Is the V2142 plugged into a Coax lead? Or is there a VM box between the COAX?

Because when I look at 2142 documentation, it says it has an Ethernet Internet port, not a DOCSIS cable port. The use of Ethernet means it should work with ADSL services that other ethernet connectivity.

Situating this router behind another NAT router may create issues, but if you select an ADSL supplier that allows you to use a bridge modem of your own choice you can avoid the problems.

No, there is an exchange called Central that is enabled next year, not this one. I would be very surprised if "Central" meant all of exchanges within central of Birmingham (Victoria is in central of Birmingham depending how you consider central).

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As jchamier says, I don't know anything about Vonage but it would surprise me if it wouldn't work on a BT circuit.

Re a phone line install, BT will do it for £30:-

"A connection charge may apply for new lines (£30 for calls only customers paying the standard monthly line rental of £13.60 � reduced from £130, FREE for Broadband and Calls packages) Learn more

We will always use an existing line where possible or if you need an engineer visit we will offer you the closest available date.",

but of course you don't want BT Broadband to go with it.

Be would run on that line, or Be themselves do an install for £85.

100 doors sounds like quarter of a mile? That's a heck of a long way in broadband terms, especially if he is that distance further away on the BT cabling. TalkTalk is nothing to go by for connection speed, try his number into the Be checker. It may come back the same, but who knows.

What's the nearest address to you that you know the (BT line) number of?

£85 is too much.

This road is full of terraced houses and 100's houses means less than 0.15 miles.

BE checker does say I'm available but it does not say how much speed I should get. BT one says I should get 6Mbps.

I don't know anyone with BT number living near me.

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Is the V2142 plugged into a Coax lead? Or is there a VM box between the COAX?

Because when I look at 2142 documentation, it says it has an Ethernet Internet port, not a DOCSIS cable port. The use of Ethernet means it should work with ADSL services that other ethernet connectivity.

Situating this router behind another NAT router may create issues, but if you select an ADSL supplier that allows you to use a bridge modem of your own choice you can avoid the problems.

Yes it has Ethernet port. I usually put it behind modem and router is behind it. I'll check again just to make sure.

In which case given its ethernet should be fine with an ADSL bridging modem, might need a little port forwarding with another router

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In which case given its ethernet should be fine with an ADSL bridging modem, might need a little port forwarding with another router

Hopefully, it should work. Also, I might buy a router with advanced settings. But it'll have to wait till I get confirmation on FTTC date and/or I give up on VM and go for BT line.

Anon here again, here's BQM of my cable:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ff58ca9147b...

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Anon here again, here's BQM of my cable:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ff58ca9147b...

Good Grief!

Click the "Live BQM" link in my sig.

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Anon here again, here's BQM of my cable:

http://www.thinkbroadband.com/ping/share/ff58ca9147b...

Good Grief!

Click the "Live BQM" link in my sig.

Even with my BQM, I still get solid 10mb/s unless I'm throttled.

That is exactly reason why I'm looking for another ISP.

FYI Birmingham Victoria exchange is now on the latest list to have FTTC rolled out, no exact date yet though