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Standard User colesy10
(regular) Fri 22-Apr-11 08:31:20
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: Quark999] [link to this post]
 
Got mine working now.
Quark I cannot seem to find the section or comand to enable ping respond from an external source.
Do you know where it is, or does yours repsond to external ping?

Here are my stats

Receive Direction Send Direction
Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 40000 9984
Min. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 128 128
Attainable throughput kbit/s 41664 15689
Current throughput kbit/s 39984 9984

Latency 0 ms 0 ms
Bitswap on on
Impulse Noise Protection 0.0 0.0

Signal-to-noise ratio dB 6 14
Line attenuation dB 10 -
Carrier record B43 B43
Profile 8c

Thanks

EDIT: For those others who are doing this, don't forget to enable Annex B in the Interfernce section of the web gui, otherwise you upload speed won't be at max.

Edited by colesy10 (Fri 22-Apr-11 08:33:54)

Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Fri 22-Apr-11 09:44:59
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: colesy10] [link to this post]
 
How did the sync speed/profile compare with the BTO modem?

DrT

Stress - the condition brought about by having to resist the temptation to beat the living daylights out of someone who richly deserves it.
Standard User colesy10
(regular) Fri 22-Apr-11 15:55:31
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: DrTeeth] [link to this post]
 
It's a bit unstable at the moment, and has caused my profile to drop.
Hopefully it will achieve a steady sync and settle down.
I'm not sure if it's the 7390 modem causing the problem, or I have had this problem and the BT modem just doesn't show it up as much as the 7390 modem.

I bought the 7390 because I struggle to get passed 24Mb on most days, so used this as a process of elimination.


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Standard User colesy10
(regular) Sun 24-Apr-11 07:16:13
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: DrTeeth] [link to this post]
 
Right because I have been messing with the 7390, my profile has dropped but here are some more stats.

Receive Direction Send Direction
Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 40000 9984
Min. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 20000 5000
Attainable throughput kbit/s 36144 16477
Current throughput kbit/s 36144 9984

Latency 8 ms 8 ms
Bitswap on on
Impulse Noise Protection 3.0 4.0

Signal-to-noise ratio dB 6 12
Line attenuation dB 10 -
Carrier record B43 B43
Profile 8c

The wireless 2.4Ghz is terrible on this router though. I don't have any 5Ghz devices to test.
The throughput compared to the BT modem is better with speed tests now showing a better upload speed of around 0.4Mbps, and a tad more. So for example a typical speedtest now brings in 8.82Mbps, the BT modem would show 8.22Mbps (speeds vary at times)

Also I now find that my download speedtest is more constant. The 'speedo needle' of flash based testers used to jump around a fair bit now it stays a nice constant level.
This was noticed before my profile dropped.
the router does give error stats, but formatting them into a post is a bit of a pain, when I have more time I will post them.
It also show a spectrum graphs of the signal to noise ration and carrier frequency, you can also notice live bit swapping going on there.


No more messing for me now until the profile comes back up.
Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Sun 24-Apr-11 12:58:38
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: colesy10] [link to this post]
 
I recently tried a different modem It d/l at 3.30Mb/s, the BTO one 3.70MB/s. I do not think it had anything to do with profiles as the speed change happened instantly with a change in modem.

DrT

Stress - the condition brought about by having to resist the temptation to beat the living daylights out of someone who richly deserves it.
Standard User Quark999
(learned) Wed 27-Apr-11 10:28:31
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: colesy10] [link to this post]
 
I don't think I had to do anything to enable external pings - all I did was enable Dyndns, and that Dyndns hostname can be pinged from outside.

I *can* report that although I always synced at the highest rates, my connection has been far more stable on the Fritz!Box. Ever since I plugged it in on 17/04 it has not dropped sync - the BT Box dropped about ever 3-4 days.

I also don't have problems with the wireless throughput, though I don't do much on 2.4 Ghz. I got 100 MBit/s + on 5 Ghz once, but I'm mostly using the new 500 MBit/s Powerline adapters which work like a charm.
Standard User colesy10
(regular) Fri 29-Apr-11 10:11:21
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: Quark999] [link to this post]
 
As we have discovered the 7390 only seems to respond to a certain amount of pings due to it's built in security measures.
But with you help I have gained more access to the 7390 and here are some stats

1
23
45
67
8
SECONDS WITH                       REMEDIABLE ERROR (FEC)            NOT REMEDIABLE ERROR (CRC)
                  
                  errors (ES)     many errors (SES)   per minute    last 15 mins       per min   last 15min
 FRITZ!Box            31            3                   520             1340              0.02     0 
DSL central exchange 6             1                   14                0               0        0 
 
?>


Receive Direction Send Direction
Max. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 40000 9984
Min. DSLAM throughput kbit/s 20000 5000
Attainable throughput kbit/s 33472 16473
Current throughput kbit/s 33472 9984
Latency 8 ms 8 ms
Bitswap on on
Impulse Noise Protection 4.0 4.0
Signal-to-noise ratio dB 6 12
Line attenuation dB 10 -
Carrier record B43 B43
Profile 8c

Here are some telnet stats
Extended Port Status
=================
Bme: 1 Port: 1
Downstream line rate: 49184 kbps
Upstream line rate: 14480 kbps
Bearer0 Downstream payload rate: 0 kbps
Bearer1 Downstream payload rate: 33472 kbps
Bearer0 Upstream payload rate: 0 kbps
Bearer1 Upstream payload rate: 9984 kbps
Downstream attainable payload rate: 33472 kbps
Downstream attainable line rate: 53008 kbps
Downstream Training Margin: 7.0 dB
Downstream Line Protection (Bearer1 Path): 3.0 DMT Symbols
Upstream Line Protection (Bearer1 Path): 3.0 DMT Symbols
Near-end ITU Vendor Id: 0x040041564d004410
Far-end ITU Vendor Id: 0xb5004244434da188
Downstream delay: 7.6 ms
Upstream delay: 7.8 ms
Tx total power -5.7 dbm
FE Tx total power 7.6 dbm
VDSL Estimated Loop Length : 1205 ft
G.Hs Estimated Near End Loop Length : 4611 ft
G.Hs Estimated Far End Loop Length :0 ft
Current framing mode: 0x10 EFM
Bandplan Type...........: 15
No. of Upstream Bands...: 2
No. of Downstream Bands.: 2

And here is how I got them
enable telnet on windows (on 7 and vista you must enable them under windows features in control panel.

elnet fritz.box
enter password
vdsl
11
end (this brings up the BME reference numbers) below

BME Reference board API Menu
Ikanos Communications Copyright 2000-2007
Version 2.2.0r6a14IKF6850
=========================================

2) Initiate Reset BME command
3) Configure System Provision (default values)
4) Configure Port Provision
5) Initiate Port Start command
7) Initiate Port Stop command
9) Start Loopback Test
10) Request Brief Port Status
11) Request Extended Port Status
12) Display Performance Counters
13) Get Near End SNR Margin and Attenuation
15) Display User Logs
16) Clear User Logs
20) Display this menu
21) Modify Port Provision
31) INI CRC Threshold
41) Port Error Count Management
42) Event Log Management
55) Board Configuration Management
56) OAM Options Mask Setting
57) Performance Management Parameter Configuration
58) Trigger PM Failures
59) Bitloading Per Tone
62) GPIO Test
70) Maintenance Mode
90) BME Firmware versions
99) Log off/ Go to auto mode
114) Clear Performance Counters
131) VDSL CRC Threshold
140) Internal EOC Commands
141) Overhead Message Commands
143) Remote Ethernet Status Report
150) Bit Swap Commands
212) Display All Performance Counters
820) AVM turn off AutoStart
821) AVM turn on AutoStart
Standard User Quark999
(regular) Wed 04-May-11 18:27:38
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: colesy10] [link to this post]
 
Interesting - and something seems to be off with your RAS profile or whatever it is called now. Your Downstream Line Rate and your Attainable Line Rate are both higher than mine, yet your payload line rate is 33472 - I think this is where the profile kicks in. Mine is at the infamous 39984 maximum profile step, either yours is unstable or it is should ramp up to max.?
Standard User colesy10
(regular) Wed 04-May-11 19:28:31
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: Quark999] [link to this post]
 
Yes my profile was max but the fritz reset the connection overnight every 5 minutes. One of the options I forgot to tick before heading to bed. That's the problem with setting it up just prior to midnight lol. Everytime I did tick the permanent option the modem would not sync unless I used the fb editor again.
I also played around with the ipv6 setting and can only get it working via 6to4 tunnel despite me having ipv6 enabled on my line so that caused another reset or 2 resulting in a further drop.
I'm hoping my ISP can get the profile changed to max for me but that is proving to be a struggle for them battling against BT.
Standard User lexden16
(newbie) Tue 12-Jul-11 14:13:31
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: Quark999] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Quark999:
I have finally had a chance to try getting my AVM Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL Modem instead of the Openreach modem. It had been working fine as a router, but obviously I wanted to use the built-in modem as well, due to the pretty impressive statistics the box offers.

In short, I was successful! As reported previously, the modem synchronizes fine by default, but the PPPoE connection fails to establish - as willuk2010 helpfully found out, this is generally due to third-party modems not being set to the correct VLAN ID, which is 101 on Openreach. I can also confirm that this seem to be the same VLAN ID across the board, as I am on Aquiss - I was concerned that my VLAN ID might be different, but that does not seem to be the case (unline e.g. in Germany where Vodafone seems to be on a different VLAN than Telekom).

Here are the instructions:
a) Export your Fritz!Box configuration, just in case.
b) Download FBEditor 0.5.2 from http://www.ip-phone-forum.de/showthread.php?t=79513&... - you might have to register. This can be used to edit the configuration files. Theoretically, you can enable telnet access on the Fritz!Box by dialing #96*7* on an attached DECT phone, and then edit the configuration file directly using vi, but FBEditor is probably safer in case you mess up your stanzas.
c) When first opened, FBEditor will ask you for the IP address to your fritz.box and the web password. Once entered and connected, you can use the menu option "Datei" -> "Konfiguration einlesen" or just press CTRL-E to read in the configuration.
d) Find and change the following:
ar7cfg {
...
tcom_targetarch = yes;
vdsl_resalearch = yes;
...
}

dslifaces {
...
pppoevlanauto = yes;
pppoevlanauto_startwithvlan = yes;
...
}

dslglobalconfig {
...
default_tcom_vlan = 101;
...
}
e) Use "Datei" -> "Konfiguration zurückspielen". This uploads the modified configuration to the Fritz!Box, which will then restart.

If you have been using the Openreach modem, it is probably best to remove it from LAN Port one and change the configuration back so that the Fritz!Box tries to use the internal modem. Make sure you connect the Y cable to the NTE instead of having the Openreach modem connected.

Once rebooted, the Fritz!Box will synchronize again, and the PPPoE connection should be established automatically.

My stats (do I see potential for 15 MBit/s upstream in there?)
Send Receive
DSLAM-Data rate Max. kBit/s 40000 9984
DSLAM-Data rate Min. kBit/s 128 128
Capacity kBit/s 41136 16325
Current Data rate kBit/s 39984 9984

Latency 0 ms 0 ms
Carrier swap (Bitswap) on on
Impulse protection 0.0 0.0

SNR dB 7 16
Atennuation dB 7 -
Carriers A43 A43
Profile 17a


I had to contact AVM Support about my 7390 so I took the opportunity to ask them about editing the VLAN configuration as I hope to get FTTC in the next few months. Their response was as follows:
A lab firmware (beta) has been released these days (in "FRITZ!Lab") which
offers a first experimental manual VLAN configuration option. Please feel
free to test with this FRITZ!Lab firmware, available at
http://www.avm.de/en/service/Lab/index.php

Information on FRITZ! lab
FRITZ! lab presents new functions and improvements for the FRITZ!Box before
these are implemented in the regular firmware update, however with beta
status.

For comments or other feedback regarding this beta firmware that are not
related to this issue, please use our link at

http://www.avm.de/en/service/Lab/labor_feedback_en.p...

After the installation of the lab firmware, you can revert to the current
official firmware via the recovery tool which is included in the download
file. We recommend the following procedure:

* Before the installation of a lab firmware, save the settings of the
FRITZ!Box ("System > Save Settings").
* Install FRITZ! lab firmware from our web site at:
http://www.avm.de/en/service/Lab/index.php

If required, you can install the official firmware again:

* Apply the recovery tool that is included in the downloaded lab firmware
file.
* Re-import the FRITZ!Box settings that were saved prior to the
installation of the lab firmware (via the user interface: "System > Save
Settings > Restore").

I am reluctant to use FBEditor as, technically, it invalidates the 5 year warranty on this excellent box. Grateful to know in time whether this beta update - which will no doubt be pushed out formally very soon - does the trick
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