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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 28-Mar-12 11:42:46
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: jamesall] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jamesall:
Answering my own question from a few days ago, I was finally able to get it to connect via LAN1 and PPoE. The trick was to set the IP address of the router to 192.168.1.254. I found a post somewhere saying this was required. As soon as I made the change, the PPoE connection came up.

Home Network - Network - Network Settings - IP Addresses.

The next step is to remove the OpenReach modem. A job for another day smile


just trying new things with my fritz can you tell me all the settings you changed on the IP settings page of the router just curious If you changed any values on the dhcp From and To values and was it the old IP 192.168.178.1 the value you changed to 192.168.1.254...lastly when I go in my fritz I just type fritz.box (the default was 192.168.178.1 liked to this) can you still type fritz.box and get into it or do you use the new iP you set?? Just asking before I tweak and get to many resyncs fixing it

Thanks
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Wed 28-Mar-12 11:51:09
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: jamesall] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jamesall:
Answering my own question from a few days ago, I was finally able to get it to connect via LAN1 and PPoE. The trick was to set the IP address of the router to 192.168.1.254. I found a post somewhere saying this was required. As soon as I made the change, the PPoE connection came up.

Home Network - Network - Network Settings - IP Addresses.

The next step is to remove the OpenReach modem. A job for another day smile


Also I use my FB as a modem and it seems fine in the original Default IP 192.168.178.1 does this actually matter when using as a modem as I don't use the BT openreach one except for a quick try on install day....I am just asking because I was not sure what BT can detect on my end as far as the default IP not being the recommended 192.168.1.254....or if this is just relevant to a LAN connection to the openreach modem only.
Standard User jamesall
(newbie) Wed 28-Mar-12 13:27:38
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


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The only change I made which caused it to be able to establish a connection to the internet was to change the IP to 192.168.1.254 (from 192.168.1.1).

When trying to bypass the OR modem yesterday, I also tried reverting back to .1 as part of the troubleshooting. .1 definitely does not connect to the internet (PPPoE Error: Timeout) changing back to .254 and it connected straightaway. Didn't allow traffic to/from the internet as previously mentioned but the connection was up.

When configured as .254, I cannot use "Fritz.box" in by browser for connection to the route - I have to use the IP address. Maybe that would get resolved with a re-boot of the router though.

Hope this helps


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Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 30-Mar-12 09:58:09
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: jamesall] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by jamesall:
The only change I made which caused it to be able to establish a connection to the internet was to change the IP to 192.168.1.254 (from 192.168.1.1).

When trying to bypass the OR modem yesterday, I also tried reverting back to .1 as part of the troubleshooting. .1 definitely does not connect to the internet (PPPoE Error: Timeout) changing back to .254 and it connected straightaway. Didn't allow traffic to/from the internet as previously mentioned but the connection was up.

When configured as .254, I cannot use "Fritz.box" in by browser for connection to the route - I have to use the IP address. Maybe that would get resolved with a re-boot of the router though.

Hope this helps

I thought the default IP was 192.168.178.1 but anyhow does everyone using the FB as a modem and router have this set to 192.168.1.254 or is that just if your using it as a router connected to the BT Openreach Modem?? Also, if I did swap it to the ...254 address will all the items I have installed in the 192.168.178.XXXaddress have to re configured or just the default IP the use would now just have 1.254 instead of 178.1 just wondering the knock on effect on other set up equipment like PC, PS3 and XBOX...and would DHCP ranges need to be altered to .254 from 178.1 etc...and did you leave subnet mask alone? This is a poor copy past of my current IP settings with the FB as a Modem and Router if the swap to .1.254 resolves the PPPoE timeout errors thats great to know:

IP address . . . 192.168.178.1
Subnet mask . . . 255.255.255.0
Disable NAT [UNCHECKED]
Use this setting if your Internet Service Provider provides a public IPv4 network.

Attention: The firewall of your FRITZ!Box is disabled whenever you use this setting.

[CHECK] Enable DHCP server
DHCP server assigns IP addresses

from . . . 192.168.178.20
to . . . 192.168.178.200
Anonymous
(Unregistered)Fri 01-Jun-12 16:36:05
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


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I am slightly confused about the discussion around IP addresses.

I just had BT Infinity installed - and as soon as the BT engineer left the house I disconnected both the BT boxes (router and modem) and replaced them with a Fritzbox 7390 running Fritz!os 5.22.

And I did *not* change the IP address I've always used for my own local network (router at 192.168.0.1 net mask 255.255.255.0).

It all works - as the router does not care what the internal networks address is - so no need to change this.

Other settings of interest
login name and password as supplied by BT in their setup email!

VLAN : 101
VPI : 1
VCI : 32

Getting 80 Mbit/s download - 20 Mbit/s upload.

Tor
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Standard User rikscha
(newbie) Mon 17-Feb-14 11:45:04
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


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Hi,

I was wondering if you could use a German version of the 7390 in the UK with FTTC. I know you can't for ADSL but was wondering if standards in both countries were in line.

Many Thanks.
Standard User Quark999
(regular) Mon 17-Feb-14 12:49:17
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


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I *think* VDSL2 is only available with traditional analogue phone lines, not ISDN - that's where the problems with ADSL2 and Annex A and B come from.

So I would assume that the German Fritzboxes work with UK phone lines. But don't quote me on that. In fairness, I had so many problems with my 7390 resetting due to buggy firmware that I ended up buying a Draytek - the Fritz has a lovely interface and awesome features, but they seemed to come at an expense of stability. The Draytek has a horrible looking interface, less features and the ones it does have are more complicated that necessary. But at least it works when I need it - not sure whether the 7390 has become more stable, AVM seems to release far more firmware updates than Draytek...
Standard User lexden16
(member) Mon 17-Feb-14 13:52:55
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: rikscha] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by rikscha:
Hi,

I was wondering if you could use a German version of the 7390 in the UK with FTTC. I know you can't for ADSL but was wondering if standards in both countries were in line.

Many Thanks.


For the avoidance of doubt, 'German' versions of Fritz!boxes will not work in the UK 'out of the box'. They can be 'hacked' but this invalidates the 5 year warranty supported by the manufacturer. I had reason to return a 7390 last year and AVM's support was first-class. I am just about to replace my 3 year old (in truth a 1 year old box as rather than fix my old box, AVM replaced it) 7390 with a 7490 international (open to offers for my current box ).

I am not sure what all this talk about IP addresses is all about. All that is needed to get a 7390 up and running on any BTW FTTC line is VLAN- 101, VP1 - 1, VC1 - 32, PPPoE ticked, Annex A - ticked and your ISP Username and password.

I have had FTTC for nearly two years and apart from one glitch my connection has been pretty well rock solid at 93/27 on an 80/20 IP profile. Before you ask, my profile limits both the up and down speeds. I live about 300M from my cabinet.

International versions of Fritz!boxes and accessories can be purchased from German distributors. International versions will give you a GUI in English! The UK International version will also give you a UK PSU and 'Y' lead. I am currently running a Fritz!Repeater (german version) on my network. It has a Euro plug and everything is in German. It works as it is only connecting to my 7390. I also have 3 Fritz!Fon MT-F phones.

The 'Pro' of the Fritz!Box 7390/7490 is a one stop solution for FTTC and home phones. The 'con' is if the F!B fails then the one stop solution has a 10 day gap whilst the old box is sent to Germany and the new one arrives.
Standard User rikscha
(newbie) Mon 17-Feb-14 17:28:20
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Re: How to get a Fritz!Box 7390 working as a VDSL modem


[re: lexden16] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by lexden16:
In reply to a post by rikscha:
Hi,

I was wondering if you could use a German version of the 7390 in the UK with FTTC. I know you can't for ADSL but was wondering if standards in both countries were in line.

Many Thanks.


For the avoidance of doubt, 'German' versions of Fritz!boxes will not work in the UK 'out of the box'. They can be 'hacked' but this invalidates the 5 year warranty supported by the manufacturer. I had reason to return a 7390 last year and AVM's support was first-class. I am just about to replace my 3 year old (in truth a 1 year old box as rather than fix my old box, AVM replaced it) 7390 with a 7490 international (open to offers for my current box ).

I am not sure what all this talk about IP addresses is all about. All that is needed to get a 7390 up and running on any BTW FTTC line is VLAN- 101, VP1 - 1, VC1 - 32, PPPoE ticked, Annex A - ticked and your ISP Username and password.

I have had FTTC for nearly two years and apart from one glitch my connection has been pretty well rock solid at 93/27 on an 80/20 IP profile. Before you ask, my profile limits both the up and down speeds. I live about 300M from my cabinet.

International versions of Fritz!boxes and accessories can be purchased from German distributors. International versions will give you a GUI in English! The UK International version will also give you a UK PSU and 'Y' lead. I am currently running a Fritz!Repeater (german version) on my network. It has a Euro plug and everything is in German. It works as it is only connecting to my 7390. I also have 3 Fritz!Fon MT-F phones.

The 'Pro' of the Fritz!Box 7390/7490 is a one stop solution for FTTC and home phones. The 'con' is if the F!B fails then the one stop solution has a 10 day gap whilst the old box is sent to Germany and the new one arrives.


Can you point me in the right direction on where to find instructions on how to hack it? I'd rather hack it then sell it and get an UK version.
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