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Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Mon 02-May-11 21:52:57
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Ok, Am with Be at the mo running a DG834GT with DGTeam FW.

I'm about to jump to FTTC via ADSL24 or IDNET. (Still trying to decide which one)

Am a bit out of the loop when it comes to the new stuff!

What router is the one to get at the moment? What are the favourites?

Budget isn't a major concern, providing it isn't a silly figure.

Needs good wireless, other than that all is good.

All opinions welcome.

ta. smile

Edited by Cruncher (Mon 02-May-11 21:54:42)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 02-May-11 22:08:08
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Does it need to be gig ethernet, or is 100Mbps OK?

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Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Mon 02-May-11 22:10:29
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Either to be honest, but the faster the better would be good. I do a fair bit of network transferring.

Just looking at me options at the moment,

What are you thinking? smile


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Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Mon 02-May-11 22:27:42
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http://www.dslsource.co.uk/View/NBG4604

Does not miss a beat, but do NOT use spaces in any wireless SSID. There is a persistent bug that will bite if/when you reboot the router.

Cheers

DrT

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 02-May-11 22:33:22
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Because at 100Mbps ethernet there is a stupidly cheap Buffalo WHR-G300N/U. (Prices rising, though they often drop again - mine cost £23.56 with free delivery. Despite what the order system says, the free delivery was sent next working day and arrived the day after).

There are a few (happy users) around on these forums, but the gig equivalent seems to be a bit more troublesome. Something to do with shipping with a third-party firmware that gives trouble frown. See this thread.

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Standard User Squirrel
(fountain of knowledge) Mon 02-May-11 22:53:57
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I also used a Netgear DG834GT (ex-Sky) router for many years. When I went to BT Infinity I got a HomeHub 3 but missed the features on the Netgear so went for a Netgear WNDR3700

http://www.netgear.co.uk/service-provider/products/r...

Been absolutely rock solid since I got it.

Standard User mattypi
(newbie) Mon 02-May-11 23:12:39
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
Ok, Am with Be at the mo running a DG834GT with DGTeam FW.

I'm about to jump to FTTC via ADSL24 or IDNET. (Still trying to decide which one)

Am a bit out of the loop when it comes to the new stuff!

What router is the one to get at the moment? What are the favourites?

Budget isn't a major concern, providing it isn't a silly figure.

Needs good wireless, other than that all is good.

All opinions welcome.

ta. smile

if your desperate for one with a vdsl2 modem in the cheapest one is by far the one ive got (zhone)
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Mon 02-May-11 23:56:53
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@RobertoS Hmmm, worth looking at, whats the wireless range like, reviews dont seem too positive... Garden connection is a plus. smile

@Squirrel Well that looks the part, its it bad i do actually want one that looks nice?

Not overly fussed if it has a modem in, but that said i'm quite tempted by this...

http://www.technicolor.dslshop.co.uk/789_datasheet.a...

Thoughts?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 03-May-11 09:01:22
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I seem to remember there were only a couple of reviews, and the bad one didn't seem to be particularly reliable?

Anyway, my laptop has a 130Mbps maximum, and the other day I was in the garden 20-30 feet away from the back of the house, getting a connection speed of 52Mbps. Only browsing, but it was fine. (Before any wags jump in, no, I wouldn't have been browsing there if it had been raining instead of fine tongue).

Router is right at the front of the metal-framed house, on the first floor, at the opposite side to where I was rekative to the house in the garden.

Remember, it's returnable!

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Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Tue 03-May-11 11:17:21
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Maybe, i'll read them again later, i did only quickly scan the Amazon reviews tbh, and generally they can be quite random as to how good they are...

To be honest, at £30 its worth a punt isn't it.....

Anyone else got any options? smile
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 03-May-11 12:12:47
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
To be honest, at £30 its worth a punt isn't it.....
That was exactly my approach to it. I fully expected to have to send it back.

What I did find was that trying to set it up beforehand (on IDNet) failed miserably. As a result I had to do a factory reset, then clicked the wizard, and all it asked for was my ISP username and password. DNS and even the fixed IP address were picked up automatically within seconds.

Huge number of options. One I like is that you can let WEP devices connect as well as your main WPAx ones, and the WEPs only have access to the net, not to the LAN.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Tue 03-May-11 12:37:56
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Multi SSID's you mean, ie: one for visitors?

Though must confess, i really like the look of the Netgear...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B002P54B80/ref=asc_df_B00...


Also this is the same one right?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-RangeMax-Wireless-N-...

I cant see any difference other than the price...



All that said, After looking around i'd quite like one with the vdsl modem inbuilt, that way i can do away with the original OR one (less clutter)

Like this...

http://www.technicolor.dslshop.co.uk/789_datasheet.a...
Standard User Squirrel
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 03-May-11 12:57:10
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
Also this is the same one right?

Yes they are the same, one is just shown on the vertical stand.

There are at least two versions of it available, not surprisingly V1 and V2. V2 has more internal memory of some sort, but reading the various reviews on the web it appeared that V1 was actually the better of the two versions.

One other thing, it is quite large, especially if you're used to a DG834GT.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 03-May-11 13:44:19
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
Multi SSID's you mean, ie: one for visitors?
No, on the same SSID.
Though must confess, i really like the look of the Netgear...
Sorry, I know nothing about the Netgears. I just thought anything above £50 needed strong justification, in the same way as a high price on ADSLx routers has to be looked at critically, so as I said before, thought I would try this first.
All that said, After looking around i'd quite like one with the vdsl modem inbuilt, that way i can do away with the original OR one (less clutter)
The trouble with that is the Openreach requirement that you use their supplied modem. A few have risked replacing it though, with various combination kit. The Fritz box seems to be coming out on top from what I see.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.

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Standard User colesy10
(regular) Tue 03-May-11 14:06:24
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I have the wndr3700 and I think it's a great router (with the latest firmware).
Wireless range is excellent, although I don't have 5Ghz devices so I just turned that off.
One downside is if you share the usb port with an external hard drive or usb stick, then you can password protect it, but it must use the same password as you set to access the router user interface. Which can be a problem if you want friends to share things off the attached device, as they will then know your router password.
Standard User mattypi
(newbie) Tue 03-May-11 18:05:43
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op:
i take it you have looked at this if you don';t need ethernet
http://www.amazon.co.uk/AirPort-Express-Station-AirT...
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MB321B/A/AirPort-E...
or this if you do ?
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC340B/A/AirPort-E...
Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Tue 03-May-11 19:27:38
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Doesn't the router prevent access to the control panel via the wireless port/s?

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Standard User colesy10
(regular) Tue 03-May-11 20:15:04
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No you can access the GUI via wireless, it also displays fine via an iPhone.

Edited by colesy10 (Tue 03-May-11 20:39:19)

Standard User Squirrel
(fountain of knowledge) Tue 03-May-11 20:45:44
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I know - replying to my own post smile

Just a quick photo though to give you some idea of the size compared to a DG834GT

https://picasaweb.google.com/redsquirrelmeister/Desk...

Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Tue 03-May-11 21:30:36
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Ok.

@Squirrel, Cheers for the info and the pic, it is a big one isn't it! tongue Seriously though, does look nice done it. smile

Must confess, i am a bit of a Netgear fanboy, I have always liked them. If i dont get that i think i may go for the WHR-G300N/U as its that cheap and worth a go.

The trouble with that is the Openreach requirement that you use their supplied modem. A few have risked replacing it though, with various combination kit. The Fritz box seems to be coming out on top from what I see.

Am i right in saying that i cant see my line stats if i'm using the OR modem? Or did i miss read that?

Did look at the Apple idea, but not for me at the mo....




Next question, Am looking at ADSL24 (Fibre 30 Pro) or IDNET (Home Plus Fibre)

Which one would be considered the better service? If any.
Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Tue 03-May-11 22:59:07
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The trouble with that is the Openreach requirement that you use their supplied modem. A few have risked replacing it though, with various combination kit. The Fritz box seems to be coming out on top from what I see.


I am not sure that that is the case, my ISP seemed to think it was okay to attach 3rd party kit.

I was recently testing another VDSL2 modem that is not yet on the UK market and it CONSISTENTLY synced 12% slower than the BTO modem. I was surprised at the loss as the manufacturer has a very good name.

It was not a profile related issue, I could swap the modems at will and alter my sync. Not all modems are created equal so make sure you buy one from a retailer with a generous returns policy - you may find it slower than the BTO one.

DrT

PS Don't ask for details of the kit. If I told you I'd have to shoot you; then they would have to shoot me wink.

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Moderator billford
(moderator) Tue 03-May-11 23:05:08
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In reply to a post by DrTeeth:
I am not sure that that is the case, my ISP seemed to think it was okay to attach 3rd party kit.
Although there's nothing to physically stop you, your ISP was mistaken:

http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/fibre/t/3997831-sel...

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 03-May-11 23:07:53
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You are correct, you can't get any stats from the OR modem.

The Buffalo router is much smaller than the Netgear 834. Scarily small smile.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.

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Standard User mattypi
(newbie) Tue 03-May-11 23:10:31
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Thats very interesting as i have seen the same profile over both or's modem and the vdsl2 modem in a third party router could it have been a pre production issue? or a beta firmware release or something ? (was it linksys/cisco:-))
Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Tue 03-May-11 23:15:35
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In reply to a post by mattypi:
Thats very interesting as i have seen the same profile over both or's modem and the vdsl2 modem in a third party router could it have been a pre production issue? or a beta firmware release or something ? (was it linksys/cisco:-))


As I said, I do not think it was a profile issue. The profile would not change that quickly and predictably.

<< (was it linksys/cisco:-))>>

DrT gets out his Desert Eagle and slips off the safety wink.

Cheers

DrT

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Standard User Singh400
(member) Tue 03-May-11 23:20:23
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I've been looking at the DrayTek Vigor 2750n. Hadn't heard of the TG789n. Looking into it now.

Moderator billford
(moderator) Tue 03-May-11 23:28:35
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I'm slightly surprised nobody has mentioned the Bilion 7800N

I'm been using one (with beta firmware for IPv6) for about a month and so far very happy with it. It's not the prettiest router I've ever seen though tongue

Several threads relating to it in the DSL Hardware forum.

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Standard User mattypi
(newbie) Tue 03-May-11 23:58:01
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sure sorry I meant the profile speed stayed the same but so did the throughput-exactly infact.
.....so it is?!!smile
Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Wed 04-May-11 00:25:01
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In reply to a post by mattypi:
sure sorry I meant the profile speed stayed the same but so did the throughput-exactly infact.
.....so it is?!!smile


Sorry, but I cannot understand your point or question.

DrT

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Standard User mattypi
(newbie) Wed 04-May-11 00:33:53
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Point: my third party router was exactly the same speed as my or modem
Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Wed 04-May-11 00:45:32
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In reply to a post by colesy10:
No you can access the GUI via wireless, it also displays fine via an iPhone.


Many router manufacturers have that function disabled when shipped for added security for the user. It has to be enabled by the user if required.

I have a wndr3300. I almost bought a 3700, and if I remember correctly it has what netgear refer to as "guest mode". I believe that it can be configured as a stand alone connection to prevent guests from accessing the rest of the network.

Some of the review sites commented on their disappointment at the 3700 shipping with guest mode enabled. I will try to find the link and post it here. smile

.

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Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Wed 04-May-11 01:09:28
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Couldn't find the review site, but found this:

6. Multiple SSID/Guest Network
WNDR3700 supports up to a total of 4 networks, 2 on the 2.4 GHz band and 2 on the 5 GHz band. To enable Multiple SSID, log-on to the router GUI and click on the Guest Networks tab on the left. You can create additional networks in 2.4 GHz network or 5 GHz network, provide separate security password for each and also enable SSID broadcast and access to the local LAN along with enabling Video Mode for a specific network.


Here:

http://www.readynas.com/?p=2981


I am guessing that the USB connected device would be available to the guest networks as well, but not the login control panel. smile

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Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.

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8.45Mbps Upstream
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Standard User colesy10
(regular) Wed 04-May-11 08:02:56
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No idea about the guest networks, as mine are disabled,
I think they were enabled by default.
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Wed 04-May-11 09:53:36
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Interesting, though i have to be honest, that Bilion looks aweful1 lol


Next question, Am looking at ADSL24 (Fibre 30 Pro) or IDNET (Home Plus Fibre)

Which one would be considered the better service? If any.


Any opinions?

smile
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Thu 05-May-11 11:53:23
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Ok, Fibre ordered.

Now to pick a router.now.....
Standard User hareng
(newbie) Fri 06-May-11 14:52:07
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Every where you go there only seems to be Netgear, Tplink and Belkin off the shelf, annoying it caught me out. Even travelled 110 mile last week to get more choice but ended up with a cheapy Tplink TP- WR1043ND £44 from Overclockers with a nice interface and easy setup.

The Netgear offer a superb after sales service although it comes from a US rep. Was advised after 38 mins to return the WNDR3700 £150 for the lesser WNDR3400.
They are big as well it wouldnt fit in to a space other routers have sat in for the last 11 years.

In the mean time found my trusted D Link DIR855 quadband with old firmware which i am using now.

I have a BT home hub brand new.

I did sign up with ADSL24 but after they wasted 10 working days they just put the order through to BT upon enquiry! 7 to 21 days later might be connected.
Cancelled got my money back inc setup and went elsewhere to Webtapestry, connected 5 days later.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 06-May-11 17:22:15
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
Ok, Fibre ordered.
From?

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My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.

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Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Fri 06-May-11 21:25:17
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ADSL24.

Hareng, Hmmm, hope i dont get the same treatment from ADSL24 as you did! shocked


Narrowed it down router wise.... Well kind of... tongue


Billion 7800N - Supposed to be great, but lets face it, its fugly ~£120
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Billion-BiPAC-7800N-Broadban...

Buffalo WHR-G300N/U - Cheap and again supposed to be good. ~£35
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Buffalo-AirStation-Nfiniti-W...

Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH - As above but the gig Ethernet version, possible issues running DD-WRT firmware. ~£64
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Buffalo-AirStation-HighPower...

Netgear WNDR3700 - I like netgears, Had a DG834GT with Be and its been faultless. ~£100
http://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-RangeMax-Wireless-N-...


So come on, whats your thinking peeps?

If it makes a difference this is what the BT checker said...

"downstream line speed of 35.1Mbps and upstream line speed of 9.1Mbps."
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 06-May-11 23:10:34
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
"downstream line speed of 35.1Mbps and upstream line speed of 9.1Mbps."
That means 40000/10000 sync with IP Profiles 38717/10000.

My broadband basic info/help site - www.robertos.me.uk
My domains,website and mail hosting - Tsohost. Internet connection - IDNet Home Starter Fibre. Live BQM.

"Where talent is a dwarf, self-esteem is a giant." - Jean-Antoine Petit-Senn.
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Fri 06-May-11 23:37:17
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Thats what i'm hoping, smile

But not getting me hopes up..
Standard User Spasch
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 07-May-11 07:36:47
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[re: Cruncher] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by Cruncher:
Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH - As above but the gig Ethernet version, possible issues running DD-WRT firmware. ~£64
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Buffalo-AirStation-HighPower...

So come on, whats your thinking peeps?
I have this model, and it is an excellent piece of kit, IMO. If you are concerned about the DD-WRT firmware, Buffalo provide their own firmware (called 'Basic' in the manual, I think)..
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Sat 07-May-11 12:15:25
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Yep have seem and read about it, though if i can run the DD-WRT FW then i will as i hear much good things about it. smile

I am swaying towards the Buffalo, decided that i do want gig ethernet, so that has helped my choosing...


How do you find the interface for the Buffalo?

Do the buffalo's do ipv6? Should i be looking at a router that does do ipv6?


Ta

Edited by Cruncher (Sat 07-May-11 12:16:25)

Standard User Spasch
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 07-May-11 13:00:19
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
Yep have seem and read about it, though if i can run the DD-WRT FW then i will as i hear much good things about it. smile

I am swaying towards the Buffalo, decided that i do want gig ethernet, so that has helped my choosing...


How do you find the interface for the Buffalo?

Do the buffalo's do ipv6? Should i be looking at a router that does do ipv6?


Ta
I like the interface - easy to navigate, but not overwhelming for the basic stuff..

Yeah, IP V6 is supported, but disabled by default..
Standard User hareng
(newbie) Sun 08-May-11 23:47:35
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Hope everything goes well, they used to be a great ISP.
Tickets galore for well over a month checking them out plus the phone call. At time only three less than £30 p/m with two genuine unlimited off peak, thought it was worth the risk.

Why do ISP automatically assume you have a connection.

Incidently the BT Home Hub2 wont have it and probably wouldnt be up and running if it wasnt for the Dlink showing 'Online' when pc didnt.
Had a right game with present ISP 18 days lost with no connection 4 different routers, 4 different passwords given, login change and can only get through mornings on a working day, not 24/7 service.

Great if O2/BE did FTTC.
Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Mon 09-May-11 10:45:38
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Fair enough, I'm still trying to decide between that and the Netgear....


@Hareng: Yep i so wish BE would be doing FTTC by now, i'd never have moved it they were....

But frankly, the possibility of 40/10 speeds is too much to pass up, as i only get 6/1 via ADSL2+ with Be.

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I wish I'd tried the Buffalo Airstation, but I left to late and grabbed a Netgear WNDR3300 at the last minute. I think it is useless. I bought a lynksys cable router in the sale at Staples today for 15quid.
Want to check if the Netgear us my problem. The wireless 2.4GHz is diabolical for a "high power unit with 8 antennae". I think it's [censored] up the latency even on the wired connection.

Either way the Airstation for 35 quid delivered was the way to go with hindsight (and a more organised approach to my FTTC installation). tongue
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Standard User mrnelster
(committed) Mon 09-May-11 22:22:05
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Me by the way. ^^^^^

Knowing how it works is completely different to understanding how it works.

Live BQM

FTTC - Aquiss Business 45
37.7Mbps Downstream
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Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Tue 17-May-11 08:52:32
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Well, Install day is today! laugh

Between 8am and 1pm..... *Looks at watch again*

I've got both the Netgear WNDR3700 & Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH, will send one of them back. smile

Any last minute tips/advice?

Edited by Cruncher (Tue 17-May-11 08:53:12)

Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-May-11 09:53:40
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Be nice to the engineer. Tea and biccies. If theres furniture/stuff in the way of where they need to work, have it shifted beforehand. Try not to come across as too 'geeky', it can be quite off putting. Why not show a healthy interest, and ask if the engineer can make a measurement of your D-side whilst doing the cab work (they may well ring and say they are going to do this before they come to the house). Also ask if you might be shown the test results from their JDSU/Exfo tester, attenuation, SNR, sync rate, and make a note of these for future reference.

Good luck.

Standard User Cruncher
(newbie) Tue 17-May-11 14:29:47
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So, FTTC installed and working great! laugh

Didn't see your reply until i just logged on Zarjaz, should have looked at the starts, he did say i was syncing at full speed though (as you can see)

Looks like i'm keeping the Netgear, what can i say, i just like them and this WNDR3700 is a beauty. smile


First up, heres the results BEFORE the install...

http://speedtest.net/result/1299634123.png


First Speedtest i did..... Though to be fair the pings seems to be more around the 12-16ms mark on the Speedtest website.

http://speedtest.net/result/1299775583.png


Pings via Command Prompt to BBC

Text
1
23
45
67
89
1011
12
C:\Users\xxxxxx>ping www.bbc.co.uk
 Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.244.70] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 212.58.244.70: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51Reply from 212.58.244.70: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51
Reply from 212.58.244.70: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51Reply from 212.58.244.70: bytes=32 time=8ms TTL=51
 Ping statistics for 212.58.244.70:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 8ms, Maximum = 8ms, Average = 8ms

Heres the BT Modem after i did a bit of tidying up, its down the side of one of the sofas so you cant see it, though looks like i need to sort out that wall.... frown

He didn't change the master socket faceplate as i have all pre-filtered sockets around the house and he said the ones they fit are the same thing as what i have, though he did say the one i have here is actually better than the ones the fit now.

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff376/InFlicT666...


EDIT: Cant embed images? :/

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Edited by Cruncher (Tue 17-May-11 14:31:47)

Standard User WWWombat
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
ask if the engineer can make a measurement of your D-side whilst doing the cab work (they may well ring and say they are going to do this before they come to the house).

Is that "measurement of the D-side" the distance?
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-May-11 16:21:01
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Yes.

Standard User WWWombat
(member) Tue 17-May-11 18:35:52
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Ta. I'll try to remember that... and ask for the stats... while trying to not come over techie!

OK, that last part will be tough wink
Standard User kasg
(committed) Tue 17-May-11 18:54:56
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
He didn't change the master socket faceplate as i have all pre-filtered sockets around the house and he said the ones they fit are the same thing as what i have, though he did say the one i have here is actually better than the ones the fit now.

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff376/InFlicT666...
Mine was exactly the same as yours (obtained from Clarity) and he did change it!

Kevin

plusnet Value Fibre
Using OpenDNS
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-May-11 19:16:38
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[re: kasg] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by kasg:
In reply to a post by Cruncher:
He didn't change the master socket faceplate as i have all pre-filtered sockets around the house and he said the ones they fit are the same thing as what i have, though he did say the one i have here is actually better than the ones the fit now.

http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff376/InFlicT666...
Mine was exactly the same as yours (obtained from Clarity) and he did change it!
Wrong sort of biscuits.

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Standard User Cruncher
(learned) Tue 17-May-11 20:51:58
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So do you think the socket makes any difference then?

Am not having any issues what so ever at this time. smile
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-May-11 20:55:59
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No, but then there may be some engineers less enlightened than others.

.. or yes, it could have been biscuit choice. smile

Standard User Cruncher
(learned) Tue 17-May-11 20:57:23
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He didn't want biscuits or tea! :0
Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-May-11 21:02:13
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Yeah, I had heard they had drafted in Mormons to do the installs.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-May-11 21:04:46
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It was kasg offered the wrong biscuits, not you smile. Mine didn't want any either.

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Standard User Zarjaz
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-May-11 21:09:13
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Yeah, a young lad I recently trained doesn't do the whole hot drink thing, most odd.

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Tue 17-May-11 21:22:05
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In reply to a post by Zarjaz:
Yeah, a young lad I recently trained doesn't do the whole hot drink thing, most odd.
Probably lives on "Coke". [cough]

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Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Tue 17-May-11 22:08:42
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
He didn't want biscuits or tea! :0

The two that came to do my install didn't want any either.

BT -> Zen -> F2S -> Bulldog -> Be* -> BT Infinity
Far too many computers, 1 Wife, 3 Maine Coons and too many horses smile
Standard User kasg
(committed) Tue 17-May-11 23:30:20
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
It was kasg offered the wrong biscuits, not you smile. Mine didn't want any either.
I only offered coffee, which was accepted, forgot about the biscuits! Anyway, I've still got the old faceplate so I suppose I could swap it, but the Openreach one works perfectly well, getting maximum profile since installation (cabinet about 400m away).

Kevin

plusnet Value Fibre
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Standard User burakkucat
(regular) Tue 17-May-11 23:39:47
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I only offered coffee, which was accepted, forgot about the biscuits!
I understand that a bacon sandwich is often agreeable. wink
Anyway, I've still got the old faceplate
I should hope so. After all you purchased it, you own it!

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-May-11 09:12:44
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The trick is to make sure you get the BT one as a spare if your existing one is left in place. The user has paid for that as well.

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Standard User Cruncher
(learned) Wed 18-May-11 12:11:54
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So does the socket actually make any real world difference? I mean its not like i'm having any issues tbh... wink

ADSL24 - Fibre 30 Pro - Max Sync.

My FTTC Broadband Quality Meter
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 18-May-11 12:20:25
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No effect at all. Even a normal dangly filter will work, though the quality of those can be suspect. Any reputable filtered faceplate should be fine.

The filter only allows phone-range frequencies to and from the phone socket. ADSL/VDSL sockets get the full signal including the phone range.

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(learned) Wed 18-May-11 12:24:46
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As suspected. smile

Thats is basically what the OR Engineer said yesterday.

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Standard User Cruncher
(learned) Sat 21-May-11 14:23:30
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What the hell ADSD24!?

Its Saturday - The weekend. Weekend according to ADSL24's website is off peak.

Yet whatever i do today it is counted towards my limit. I just downloaded a couple of games via Steam as its 'off peak' and wont count to my limit..

Next thing i know i get an email saying i am about to hit my limit.... Now i have 1gb to last me the rest of the month.....

Just spoke to customer service. Clearly doesn't have a clue. He said call back on Monday!


Sorry but i wish i'd gone with BT now..... frown

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Standard User Yerman164
(learned) Sat 21-May-11 18:52:11
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BT would probably have been a better option, yes. I don't really understand the point of a FTTC package with a low usage limit, surely the whole idea of a 40meg connection is to download massive files quickly?

I've done 200GB+ so far this month at peak times on BT Infinity. I get full speed 24/7.
Standard User DrTeeth
(knowledge is power) Sat 21-May-11 22:51:28
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
What the hell ADSD24!?

Its Saturday - The weekend. Weekend according to ADSL24's website is off peak.

Yet whatever i do today it is counted towards my limit. I just downloaded a couple of games via Steam as its 'off peak' and wont count to my limit..

Next thing i know i get an email saying i am about to hit my limit.... Now i have 1gb to last me the rest of the month.....

Just spoke to customer service. Clearly doesn't have a clue. He said call back on Monday!


Sorry but i wish i'd gone with BT now..... frown


No you don't. I recently had probs with the and because BT messed up on several visits, one of directors lent me his modem. BT - don't make me laugh. On quick phone call to ADSL24 and it will all be sorted quickly - just relax, you are in good hands.

DrT

Stress - the condition brought about by having to resist the temptation to beat the living daylights out of someone who richly deserves it.
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(newbie) Sat 21-May-11 23:40:16
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If its any use i keep getting email demands for payment, what they going to do cut me off.
Never been with them on FTTC.
Standard User Cruncher
(learned) Sun 22-May-11 10:53:16
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In reply to a post by hareng:
If its any use i keep getting email demands for payment, what they going to do cut me off.
Never been with them on FTTC.
What? From ADSL24?



Ok, little update, seems that none of my off peak usage is being counted as off peak. Not after midnight or weekends.... frown

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Standard User Saltank
(member) Wed 25-May-11 11:49:31
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How's the router holding up?
I am thinking between the WNDR3700 and AirPort Extreme. Have used the Netgear twice, it's a bit iffy sometimes.

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Standard User hareng
(newbie) Wed 25-May-11 13:57:33
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Yes Cruncher ADSL24.


Had a WNDR3700, the US support said take it back and get the 3400 model after 38 mins.
They are big as well but with a nice easy interface.

Still running the Dlink DIR855 quadband.
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(learned) Wed 25-May-11 19:24:36
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In reply to a post by Saltank:
How's the router holding up?
I am thinking between the WNDR3700 and AirPort Extreme. Have used the Netgear twice, it's a bit iffy sometimes.


So far i'm very happy with it to be honest. Its rock solid runs cool, is fart etc. I do like my Netgears though.

I did look at the AE, and very nearly ordered one.....

Let me know what you tink if you go for the AE. smile

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Standard User izools
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In reply to a post by Cruncher:
is fart etc


TBH, that'd annoy me rather.

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[re: Cruncher] [link to this post]
 
Decided to go with this Linksys E4200 which has a 3x3 antenna as I wasn't too impressed with my WNDR3700 wireless.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Wed 25-May-11 20:24:19
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[re: izools] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by izools:
In reply to a post by Cruncher:
is fart etc
TBH, that'd annoy me rather.
Similar reaction here smile.

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Standard User D_an_W
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I can't fault my AE at all!

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(learned) Wed 25-May-11 22:06:18
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[re: RobertoS] [link to this post]
 
In reply to a post by RobertoS:
In reply to a post by izools:
In reply to a post by Cruncher:
is fart etc
TBH, that'd annoy me rather.
Similar reaction here smile.

Lol at my typo.....

Obviously i mean fast.

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Standard User RobertoS
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You can edit, up to 12 hours after posting smile. Not that it really matters in this case, but just in case you weren't aware that you can when it matters.

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(learned) Wed 25-May-11 22:51:33
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
You can edit, up to 12 hours after posting smile. Not that it really matters in this case, but just in case you weren't aware that you can when it matters.
I'm fully aware of how to use a forum thanks. smile

Even one as 'basic' as this... Hell you cant even use image tags?! shocked

Anyway, whats the point of an edit when its been quoted and replied to multiple times? wink

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Thu 26-May-11 08:26:48
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Sorry I spoke tongue smile.

I agree with all you say there, but you'd be amazed how many people aren't aware you can edit on this particular system.

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(learned) Thu 26-May-11 09:41:07
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Hey Rob,

Sorry if came across rude in my post above, Had a bit of bad news yesterday and was a little short with my reply i think.

I can quite imagine though, i'm a moderator on another PC based site and sometimes reading post you have to wonder how some people even manage to switch on a PC let along login to a forum and post! lol

smile

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looking at your reccommendation there is now the v2 of the Buffalo router for £21.

Was there any settings you needed to change on the router for FTTC or was it all plug and play?
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smile
I did add a tongue and smile, as it did seem out of character from you. Gone and forgotten.

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(sensei) Thu 26-May-11 23:06:02
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In reply to a post by Anonymous:
looking at your reccommendation there is now the v2 of the Buffalo router for £21.
Yes, i saw that a couple of days ago, last time I looked. I would have gone for it when I got mine but mine was £23.56 delivered, and the v2 was something like £45. However ... the label on the back says V2. Pass!

You will find the price changes every day. I think I would just go for the cheapest and see what turns up.
Was there any settings you needed to change on the router for FTTC or was it all plug and play?
I ignored the CD. Then tried to do a manual setup off-line before migration day. Engineer did his line test, connected the modem, connected the router to it, zilch frown.

Tried the wizard - I hate such things almost as much as installation CDs, zilch frown.

Did a factory reset, tried the wizard, gave it my ISP username and password when asked, up and running in under 30 seconds. It even picked up my static IP address without me entering it. Amazing.

So my advice is use the wizard from the start. Similarly the auto-wireless setup which I never found easy with Linksys/Speedtouch/Netgear; press the button, click the icon in the GUI, job done.

The only setting I remember changing after was to enable it to respond to pings, to run the tbb BQM. And I had a go at manually setting the wireless channel from looking at InSSIDer, and found the auto setting worked better.

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Thanks for that, the Buffalo router turned up yesterday from the BT Shop, they use Dabs.com but have cheaper p&p.

I am using it as a wireless N access point until I get FTTC and I must say it was easy to setup and it don't half pack a wireless signal, full strength in the entire house which is a first.

And all for £21 plus £1.50 p&p
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Well done smile!

As I was first pointed to Amazon, that where I usually look. eBuyer(?) has them as well someone found.

As for the BT Shop, that is amusing. One of the BT companies owns Dabs smile.

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