Looking forward to your visualisation.

I spent a not so happy afternoon going through my exchange data (Teignmouth - rather surprisingly getting fibre though we did campaign hard) roughly mapping out postcode areas manually ( using a simple google maps trick ) that were "blank" in the csv. I was shocked to discover a vast swathe of no FTTC planned cabs serving postcodes through the very heart of the town, including my nearby cab (25) and many businesses an industrial estate etc.


Its a small town circa 19k population - the exchange is placed at one end, fibre will need to run through a fair number of "blank" areas to serve the cabs that are being upgraded... nearly all of the "blank" areas are served by underground ducts with little above ground. I am some 800M from the exchange and get and retain nearly full synch.

Before I start yet another a major campaign to shift BTs planning onto a more sensible basis (there seems to be little logic or reason in what they have done) could someone with a more practiced and skilled eye than mine please look at the Teignmouth data and say something like "Ah, don't worry it looks like there will be massive infill and FTTP" ... I hope.

Thanks!

In reply to a post by Moradin:

Robbo.

the PCP checker is all about what cabinets are getting upgraded.

Your exchange might be enabled, but they don't bring the DSLAMS to every single cabinet. If you didn't find you postcode in the above sheet, it means all the rest of the cells are empty. which means your cabinet isn't planned to be upgraded.

so as per the above post, you will be 'infilled' at some point in the future.

if you find your local cabinet, keep an eye on it, the first sign will be some spray paint on the floor, where they intend to put the new cabinet. (the old cabinet usually stays, and another is added, then they link the two together)

Thx for reply.

Thats the thing though they did put loads of spray on the floor in various locations from the cabinet just down the road from me right up to my cabinet (afaik) outside our flats. They sprayed a couple of weeks before any work was done and the first set of workers dug the hole and laid down the double manhole chamber. The next day another worker came along and we asked him what was happening and he replied Im laying the fibre for the cabinet to be installed.

Im pretty sure our cabinet is just outside of our block as when we were first installed just over 18 months ago the BT engineer went to the said cabinet to do some checking he said. We have about 6 different cabinets very near each other ranging from BT to virgin ones (not sure what the others are for).

I just hope it is an oversight and the cabinet is planned. Our postcode is only 18 months old as we live in a new build so I hope thats the slight oversight.

In reply to a post by kitcat:

Robbo

If your postcode is not in the file at all, (CSV that is) it means that 100% of it is EO, (served direct from the exchange). This means you have no cabinet and will not be getting FTTC.

You should already have a speed in excess of 12Mb if you are that close to the exchange..

The fibre you saw is most likely to serve Cabinets further from the exchange than you are. Often the Manholes and some cabling work is done by contractors who will not know what the cables are going to be used for.

Thx for your reply.

Im pretty sure we are connected to the cabinet just outside of our flats, we live in a new build (18 months old) and the engineer that installed us went to the cabinet just outside to do something when he could not get the line to work first time. As I have stated in my reply to Moradin there are approx 6 different cabinets all very close to each other just outside where we live ranging from BT to virgin (afaik)

On the google street view you can see an old BT cabinet in the location before our flats were built and now there is a newer bigger version replacing it there. They have laid down a double manhole covered chamber just near the BT cabinet so Im hoping something will come from that - what I have no idea but fingers crossed

If anyone has any idea why they would lay down a new double manhole (with BT covers) covered chamber any info would be nice ?

Thx.


PS. Sorry just to add this is where the old cabinet was and is now replaced with a much newer version and the new double manhole chamber is close by.

Google street view showing location of cabinet old/new (newer version now there)


Our flats are just behind the tesco express there (not seen in the old google street view only from the satellite view) and there are a few other cabinets dotted around and on the opposite side of the street opposite the cabinet in the image (again sadly not seen in the street view).

Edited by deleted (Fri 06-Jan-12 00:15:47)

Robbo.

Well, forget the spreadsheet then.. it really looks like you will be getting fibre. !!!

One thing to check though.. are you sure the cabinets that got upgraded, are linked to your phones? and that another cabinet isnt?

Edited by deleted (Fri 06-Jan-12 08:04:02)

In reply to a post by _Sin:

I have no idea if mine will be included or not. As I say, it's not in the spreadsheet at all, though if I use the BT wholesale checker, my postcode reports that FTTC is available, which it doesn't for other postcodes in the town.. not sure if that means anything at all (though I'm kind of hoping it means that my cabinet is in a list, but not the published one).

What does the checker say for your telephone number? The postcode is isn't very reliable for the checker - what's your postcode, I can have a look at what I have to see if there is anything else.

In reply to a post by Justo:

What does the checker say for your telephone number? The postcode is isn't very reliable for the checker - what's your postcode, I can have a look at what I have to see if there is anything else.

Telephone number check says nothing about fibre.

Postcode is SG18 8EW

In reply to a post by _Sin:

In reply to a post by Justo:

What does the checker say for your telephone number? The postcode is isn't very reliable for the checker - what's your postcode, I can have a look at what I have to see if there is anything else.

Telephone number check says nothing about fibre.

Postcode is SG18 8EW

Mine doesn't either even though my cab is on the new list.

In reply to a post by Moradin:

Robbo.

Well, forget the spreadsheet then.. it really looks like you will be getting fibre. !!!

One thing to check though.. are you sure the cabinets that got upgraded, are linked to your phones? and that another cabinet isnt?

I think we are connected to the newer cabinet afaik, just before our we moved into our new place I noticed that the old cabinet had been replaced with a much newer version (old one was at least 20 years old maybe)
I sure hope we are connected to that new cab as hopefully then we can get FTTC

My missus noticed a BT guy working just over the road and she asked him was he doing fibre installation/work to which he replied yes but she ddin't really know what to ask other than that lol. As far as she could tell he was connecting one cabinet to another which may well be a smaller FTTC cabinet - I need to have a look sometime in the next couple of days

Heres hoping - but I think I will be stilll waiting for a new cab next to the one I think we are connected to.

In reply to a post by _Sin:

In reply to a post by Justo:

What does the checker say for your telephone number? The postcode is isn't very reliable for the checker - what's your postcode, I can have a look at what I have to see if there is anything else.

Telephone number check says nothing about fibre.

Postcode is SG18 8EW

Sorry, but virtually no SG18 8xx postcodes are due to be deployed currently - so I'd say the postcode checker is using SG18 xxx instead and that's the discrepancy.

In reply to a post by Justo:

Sorry, but virtually no SG18 8xx postcodes are due to be deployed currently - so I'd say the postcode checker is using SG18 xxx instead and that's the discrepancy.

Are you sure? According to the December data, 71% of SG18 8xx postcode are being upgraded, and of the 29% not scheduled, the majority (74%) are direct-connects.

The remainder, postcodes served by cabinets not scheduled, all seem to be in non-residential areas (industrial estates) with the exception of one in the middle of town...