In reply to a post by Adsl24:

We've already developed maps, tools, lookups and a front-end all based from this data for our company use on our internal intranet, which we've been using for many months, so yes, everything is do-able, but I suspect BT won't take kindly to it actually being published online (even though I would love to) which is why we've not released it.

As a teaser I can show you one of the internal maps we use to map postcodes to cabinets

http://adsl24.co.uk/files/teaser.jpg

James

But your teaser doesn't show the number against the cabinet so far as I can see? And I note it is perhaps your immediate locality.

How are you for cabinet locations nationwide?

What happened to your extremely useful WBC >> BT node map James? Did you have accuracy problems, or did that get the mockers put on it as well?

Does anyone actually have the Virgin Media cable coverage information (postcodes, cabs etc)

On a personal level it would be the most useful document I've seen in years and would be easy to pull in

Yes, we have the same map for every FTTC location in the UK minus the actual cabinet locations, because BT won't give us this data. The map that was on the trefor site was the same, it was showing postcodes rather than actual cabinets I believe?

There is no document available from BT to tell us exactly how many "lines" are on which cab, however we do know how many postcodes are attached to any particular cab, so can work from there. Of course in our local exchange we know there are 9,000 lines, and 21 cabs, therefore an average per cab would be 428, however we know the amount of addresses per each postcode in our area so we know that the busiest cab has approx 748 and the lowest 48 (naturally the cab serving 48 is not being upgraded!).

The strange one is that we have a cab that has around 400 lines at present, and this one is also not being upgraded, but a load of other cabs serving between 100 and 400 lines are. So who knows what Openreach's strategy is. In fact, they have to pass the cab they are not upgrading with the fibre optic cables on the way to 4 other cabs further away - work that one out!

The WBC > BT node map was only really useful for our customers when we were with Entanet because they are the only ones who installed their own equipment at each of the 20 WBC node locations, but that's not been relevant since we left Entanet. As we now use a supper who opted for WMBC, it's not the same relevance so it made way for the FTTC map. That was our own decision though

Oh if only I could list and map all the data we have on our Intranet, but I know BT's stance so it wouldn't last long and we would get a telling off

Thanks

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In reply to a post by GaryPower:

In reply to a post by mikecrawford80:

File now seems to be password protected, any chance someone can make it available for download from somewhere? Google docs perhaps?

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B_A6u7g4kGHAZWUzZTg...

Done.

doesnt work, cannot upload somewhere valid?

https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B_A6u7g4kGHAZWUzZTg...

or

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9860239/PCP-to-Postcode-Repo...

Should work...

In reply to a post by Adsl24:

The strange one is that we have a cab that has around 400 lines at present, and this one is also not being upgraded, but a load of other cabs serving between 100 and 400 lines are. So who knows what Openreach's strategy is. In fact, they have to pass the cab they are not upgrading with the fibre optic cables on the way to 4 other cabs further away - work that one out!

Does the cab that isn't being upgraded serve a (newish) development/estate that is served by underground cables by any chance?

No, in fact its just the same as all the other cabs, and still very much in service and not end of life or anything.

OK. There are similar cases local to me where what would be regarded as 'obvious' cabs to upgrade, haven't been.

Speaking to local BT guys, their thoughts are that as premises served by FTTC cabs are unlikely to see any upgrade to FTTP in the forseeable future, those cabs that serve premises suitable for FTTP (i.e. served via underground duct in good condition) were deliberately omitted, with the intention of providing FTTP instead when it becomes more widely deployed.

Is the cab that isn't being upgraded one which serves a larger mix of businesses than residentials?

When this was released I was eager to see if my area was included as the exchange was to be enabled and guess what cab 48 pr26 7as not covered. After struggling for 10 years to get adsl I was expecting it.

I get appx 1mb adsl2 at 2.5kms from exchange. Everywhere around the locality is included in the fttc upgrade, even overhead lines to a previous building 40metre from me on cab 33. Really annoyed at this I think the cab for me also feeds a local industrial estate.

Virgin cable is also on the estate but not in the cul de sacs, perhaps a deciding factor. I am really please the folk near the exchange on 24mb adsl2 can now get 40mb fttc!!

Edited by deleted (Fri 06-May-11 11:40:14)

Several reasons spring to mind:

- Higher than average number of sub-standard (narrow gauge, aliminimum etc) lines from that cab (we're also 2.5km from the exchange and can't get 2Mbps despite the line length being 3.6km) meaning the fibre service will struggle;

- Too many long lines from cab to properties (circa > 1.5km - Virgin cable gets round that by having cabs closer and amplifying the signal around the local loop)

- At least one corporate has a leased line

- Having been promised additional revenue by New Labour (the telephone tax) which the coalition then dropped, the strategy is to skip businesses as they will have a louder voice later on in terms of the taxpayer begging bowl

- Leaving that cab/location open for FTTP later on (though as far as I know, apart from where there has been subsidy e.g. the South West there's no real plan for FTTP anyway - took long enough for FTTC, FTTP will probably be another 25 years)

- One of the objectives of FTTC is to gain market share, kill LLU, and push BT up the speed rankings where it has struggled for a long time especially versus cable. Hence Infinity is >15Mbps only. If the cab isn't going to result in speeds above 15Mbps all BT will accomplish is to install a network where other ISPs will get the business, which directly contradicts the strategy