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Standard User Scoot
(regular) Fri 20-May-11 23:08:11
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Hi All,
I'm finally having FTTC installed next week, hopefully, however I have a few questions someone here might be able to answer.

Somehow I swindled a BT engineer to put my master socket in a spare bedroom at the rear of the property when my line was installed.

So the line goes over my garage in the garage attic and then through the wall in to my rear upstairs bedroom.

Do you think the OR engineer will also follow suit and do this for FTTC?

Also will this extended line to my room have any impact on my sync/connection speed?

It took some persuading to get the master socket in this room and the engineer last time called the office to ask if he should be taking the line over the garage in the attic and through a wall to do this.

I am also looking to purchase a separate route to the HomeHub 3. Can anyone recommend a decent one with good wireless?

Thanks in advance.

Edited by Scoot (Fri 20-May-11 23:10:03)

Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 20-May-11 23:12:18
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The engineer will install the FTTC modem at your existing master socket. The existing cable to that from outside will be used.

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Standard User Scoot
(regular) Fri 20-May-11 23:15:20
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ah, so he wont need to run a new cable over that route again then?


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Standard User orly
(fountain of knowledge) Sat 21-May-11 00:07:30
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No, the only changes in your house will be a change to the master socket itself rather than any wiring.

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 21-May-11 00:10:46
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Nope. He connects a fibre feed from the FTTC cabinet to your existing line in the old PCP cabinet, and fits a filtered faceplate to your Master. Should then test the connection and connect your modem, and on Infinity also your Home Hub.

There are other things like Data Extension cables possible, but your opening post implies the basic setup I just described is what you will want.

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Standard User burakkucat
(regular) Sat 21-May-11 00:19:55
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Just checking. Your back bedroom is the "computer room"?

In your initial post, you wrote --
I am also looking to purchase a separate route to the HomeHub 3. Can anyone recommend a decent one with good wireless?
(My added emphasis.)

Are you actually asking for recommendations as to which router to purchase, as a replacement for the BT supplied HH3?

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Standard User Scoot
(regular) Sat 21-May-11 00:51:45
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No, the only changes in your house will be a change to the master socket itself rather than any wiring.


In reply to a post by RobertoS:
Nope. He connects a fibre feed from the FTTC cabinet to your existing line in the old PCP cabinet, and fits a filtered faceplate to your Master. Should then test the connection and connect your modem, and on Infinity also your Home Hub.

There are other things like Data Extension cables possible, but your opening post implies the basic setup I just described is what you will want.


That's good to know, thanks for responding guys.

In reply to a post by burakkucat:
Just checking. Your back bedroom is the "computer room"?

In your initial post, you wrote --
I am also looking to purchase a separate route to the HomeHub 3. Can anyone recommend a decent one with good wireless?
(My added emphasis.)

Are you actually asking for recommendations as to which router to purchase, as a replacement for the BT supplied HH3?


Yes room is the computer room.

And yes looking for a better Router to the HH3, emphasise on good WiFi signal for laptops and PC's throughout the house. Hoping to find something that has Access Control like the HH2 to stop kids going on throughout the night.

I don't know what the HH3 is like but BT limit so much in the HH2, simple things like changing the DNS servers, or when you change the IP ranges it performs all sorts of tricks and messes up. Always had Netgear's before but heard some good things about Buffalo's is it?

Thanks for responding all.
Standard User burakkucat
(regular) Sat 21-May-11 02:41:58
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And yes looking for a better Router to the HH3, emphasise on good WiFi signal for laptops and PC's throughout the house. Hoping to find something that has Access Control like the HH2 to stop kids going on throughout the night.

I don't know what the HH3 is like but BT limit so much in the HH2, simple things like changing the DNS servers, or when you change the IP ranges it performs all sorts of tricks and messes up. Always had Netgear's before but heard some good things about Buffalo's is it?
Thanks for clarifying. The HH3 is a bit restrictive (just like any of the BT HHs). I've had a look at my neighbour's set-up -- he has recently gone FTTC with BT (i.e. Inifinity).

If you do a search here, in the TBB fora, you should find that there are a couple of routers that "those who know" will recommend. From what I recall, the Buffalo is one of those recommended. It'll be best to wait for others to comment . . .

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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sat 21-May-11 08:40:54
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I have a Buffalo NFiniti WHR-300Nv2. Fine for me, wired and wireless. Just read through the Amazon reviews, some say the wireless is great, others that it is rubbish. Hey-ho frown.

At under £30 and can be sent back I think it is a no-brainer.

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Standard User Scoot
(regular) Sun 22-May-11 20:19:55
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Does this router have any Access Control options RobertoS?
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Sun 22-May-11 21:22:35
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Ummm. Not a subject I am well up on. To the point I'm not even sure what to look for.

Though I'm assuming what you mean is the ability to schedule internet access for children. I don't think it has that, but I don't have the latest model.

If you are meaning MAC address filtering to enhance wireless security, then yes. And somewhere IIRC guest devices can use WEP while your main network uses WPA, and the WEP devices can then see the net but not the LAN.

What are you looking for?

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Standard User Justo
(newbie) Mon 23-May-11 09:56:08
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If you switch to TalkTalk (now taking FTTC orders) you can have Homesafe enabled which will give you access control at the network level, so any router/modem combination can be limited.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Mon 23-May-11 16:33:17
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In reply to a post by Justo:
If you switch to TalkTalk (now taking FTTC orders) you can have Homesafe enabled which will give you access control at the network level, so any router/modem combination can be limited.
The TT website still says "launching in May", and the Plus package still says "the fastest broadband we can provide".

TT fibre will be a Boost costing £10. It isn't yet in the Boost list.

Where do you get the "taking orders" bit?

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Edited by RobertoS (Mon 23-May-11 16:35:11)

Standard User Justo
(newbie) Mon 23-May-11 17:22:56
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Give 'em a call, they only started taking orders for the boost last week so it's not being splashed. On the TT members site, they're saying it shows as a boost option in your account if the cabinet and exchange work has been completed by Openreach.
Standard User Scoot
(regular) Mon 23-May-11 20:15:56
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In reply to a post by Justo:
If you switch to TalkTalk (now taking FTTC orders) you can have Homesafe enabled which will give you access control at the network level, so any router/modem combination can be limited.


That sounds really good, however I have already signed up with BT so no longer an option really. but thanks for responding.

I'll search the forums for Router recommendations then, however I wish BT did something like that. The HH2 used to confuse devices even when using static local IP's or MAC codes so some times my own PC would get restricted. However I think this was because the router had a lot of bugs when changing the default IP ranges.

Having to limit iPhone's/iPad's/Laptops access controls so people don't spend all night on the internet is a pain.
Standard User Scoot
(regular) Thu 26-May-11 09:20:13
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Well im happy so far.

OpenReach guy got here dot on 8am and fitted my new service before 9am. He showed me I was connecting on his device at 39999/10000 and it seems to be flying laugh

Can't get the BT SpeedTester to work at the moment but here it is from here:
My Broadband Speed Test

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1312800885.png - And another

Doesn't seem to be maxing out but guess I'm 1hr in to my training.

The OR guy said I was the first in the cab to be connected.

Such an improvement on 2mb so far, wish I could play but I have to go to work frown

Edited by Scoot (Thu 26-May-11 09:31:04)

Standard User Scoot
(regular) Thu 26-May-11 09:42:01
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And here's another:

http://www.speedtest.net/result/1312810041.png

Anyone know how long it will be before I can use the BT Speedtester?

It gets stuck on checking my details at the moment and I wanna see what my BRAS and throughput is according to them.

Thanks
Standard User TheHorseman
(knowledge is power) Thu 26-May-11 10:27:09
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I was able to use the BT speedtest the day after install but even after this I have had it fail at checking my details.

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Standard User MHC
(legend) Thu 26-May-11 11:40:14
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Probably tomorrow morning - the systems will have an overnight update.





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Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 27-May-11 00:10:09
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The highest IP Profile is 38717kbps.

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Standard User kasg
(committed) Fri 27-May-11 10:33:51
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In reply to a post by RobertoS:
The highest IP Profile is 38717kbps.
While I think of it, does anyone know where this apparently stupid number comes from (other than being 96.7925% of 40000)?

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Moderator billford
(moderator) Fri 27-May-11 10:44:46
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In reply to a post by kasg:
While I think of it, does anyone know where this apparently stupid number comes from (other than being 96.7925% of 40000)?
Same place the other stupid numbers come from that I've seen in my profile on various occasions:

38717
37716
37628
37523
37394
37333
37232
35447
35372
35067
34799
34532
34265
34131
33999
33865
33830
33730
33723
33598
33588
33578
33464
33444
33429
33332
33312
33198
32658
32395
28000
25815

crazy

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Standard User WWWombat
(member) Fri 27-May-11 12:39:28
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That's sad that you've noted them. Great, but sad. Says he, as he mutters away wondering how to achieve that automatically wink

The explicit overheads are, I think, 26 bytes per packet (2 PPP, 6 PPPoE and 18 Ethernet). Assume a packet size of somewhere around 1458, that's 1.8% - or 713Kbps of a 40,000Kbps.

Other than that, I think some of the bandwidth goes on an O&M channel between exchange and modem. But I have no idea how much data actually gets transmitted down that.
Standard User RobertoS
(sensei) Fri 27-May-11 13:57:28
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... as he mutters away wondering how to achieve that automatically
Read it out loud to a script-monkey?

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